Posts by wantstoleave

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Resurrection or re-creation?

by teel in

this thing (along with jehovah's capability to know everything before, wich leads to predetermination) bothered me the most while i was a practicant jw, and the topic of jws mourning brought it back to me.

maybe someone could shed a light on how jws cope with this problem.

i've seen this mentioned at other places too, so it's not just me who thought of this problem.. as we all know, jw doctrine tells that absolutely nothing survives the death.

wantstoleave

Maybe our brains just aren't cut out for this. We only use 2%, so there's a whole other 98% waiting to be used. IF we were to one day be perfect, then perhaps we would gain full function of our brain and be able to understand all the things we don't currently. Right now we just can't comprehend and fathom much of the logistics of 'what is to come', regarding resurrection, bringing back the person as he/she was etc. But if we were using a higher percentage of our brain, then maybe we could.

I don't know. Just throwing some thoughts out there. I have struggled for many years on thoughts like these, things the human brain cannot presently understand. It all becomes ' what if' and alot of guesswork. But if Jehovah did create this earth, then he certainly has the power to do anything he so wishes. Whether that be bring those he chooses back to life, or to cause heavenly events or bring on the tribulation/armageddon.

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Why Apostate?

by wantstoleave in

this may have been discussed elsewhere on this board but is something i've become increasingly aware of, and that's the apostasy issue.

growing up, i don't think anyone ever explained what it meant, nor did i ask - i just knew it was 'bad' and punishable by disfellowshipping.

therefore it is fairly embarrassing to say that until a few minutes ago and looking it up in a dictionary, i did not know what the meaning was.

wantstoleave

Trevor, do you mean that by the witnesses calling ones Apostate, they're name calling and labelling? If so, I agree.

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Why Apostate?

by wantstoleave in

this may have been discussed elsewhere on this board but is something i've become increasingly aware of, and that's the apostasy issue.

growing up, i don't think anyone ever explained what it meant, nor did i ask - i just knew it was 'bad' and punishable by disfellowshipping.

therefore it is fairly embarrassing to say that until a few minutes ago and looking it up in a dictionary, i did not know what the meaning was.

wantstoleave

Ghost, you bring up a valid point. One I could use with my father, who resigned from his church when he became a Jw. His parents didn't abandon him or stop talking to him.

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An Elder wrote anomously...

by Butterflyleia85 in

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friends

i realize as an elder that i am speaking out against the very organization i try to faithfully represent, but i personally think that the governing body is wrong by teaching that only what they teach us, as printed in the watchtower publications, should be considered to be the truth.

theyve made the expression of any personal opinions or group debates over their official versions of biblical truths subject to disciplinary action often leading to someone being disfellowshipped.. .

that is why i feel that i must keep my own identity somewhat anonymous.

wantstoleave

Babygirl, you got it in one 'blind faith'....it's hard. My mum told me I had to keep having a blind faith and I about cracked the wobblies....lol. Just tired of following something that can't answer all of my questions. Sometimes I wish my head didn't tick over quite so much...lol!

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What do Americans know about Europe?

by dutchstef in

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friends

i had a lot of fun reading the topic about english spelling and i asked the above question already under that topic, but i think a it's interesting enough to create a new topic.. for instance:.

a) what is the capital city of denmark?.

b) what is the difference between holland and the netherlands.

wantstoleave

And humour is everything :)

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Why Apostate?

by wantstoleave in

this may have been discussed elsewhere on this board but is something i've become increasingly aware of, and that's the apostasy issue.

growing up, i don't think anyone ever explained what it meant, nor did i ask - i just knew it was 'bad' and punishable by disfellowshipping.

therefore it is fairly embarrassing to say that until a few minutes ago and looking it up in a dictionary, i did not know what the meaning was.

wantstoleave

ATJ - Yes exactly! I was thinking the same thing the other day...how Jw's go out converting others and asking them to abandon their religions, yet when one leaves their organisation, all hell breaks loose. Thanks too for your thoughts Wobble :)

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Brits, Scots, and SA's Don't Know How to Spell

by snowbird in

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friends

on the handy ladies thread, i noticed that loubelle mentioned changing tyres..

it's t-i-r-e.. also, a car has a hood - not bonnet.. and, it's organization - not organisation.. sheesh!.

sylvia.

wantstoleave

It should read: society's. As it is referring to the one society, not more than one.

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What do Americans know about Europe?

by dutchstef in

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friends

i had a lot of fun reading the topic about english spelling and i asked the above question already under that topic, but i think a it's interesting enough to create a new topic.. for instance:.

a) what is the capital city of denmark?.

b) what is the difference between holland and the netherlands.

wantstoleave

:D Keyser

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Why Apostate?

by wantstoleave in

this may have been discussed elsewhere on this board but is something i've become increasingly aware of, and that's the apostasy issue.

growing up, i don't think anyone ever explained what it meant, nor did i ask - i just knew it was 'bad' and punishable by disfellowshipping.

therefore it is fairly embarrassing to say that until a few minutes ago and looking it up in a dictionary, i did not know what the meaning was.

wantstoleave

This may have been discussed elsewhere on this board but is something I've become increasingly aware of, and that's the Apostasy issue. Growing up, I don't think anyone ever explained what it meant, nor did I ask - I just knew it was 'bad' and punishable by disfellowshipping. Therefore it is fairly embarrassing to say that until a few minutes ago and looking it up in a dictionary, I did not know what the meaning was. It was just a part of being a JW that I accepted.

Imagine my surprise when I found Apostate to mean: 'A person who forsakes his religion, cause, party etc'.

Not some ungodly person out to destroy other peoples lives. Or someone who sets out to indoctrinate members of their previous faith with new thoughts. Merely someone who leaves the religion.

So why then the negative connotation? I don't understand why the organisation feels the need to make such a deal of an apostate. Am I missing something? Or are others in agreeance and just as confused as me?

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An Elder wrote anomously...

by Butterflyleia85 in

jw
friends

i realize as an elder that i am speaking out against the very organization i try to faithfully represent, but i personally think that the governing body is wrong by teaching that only what they teach us, as printed in the watchtower publications, should be considered to be the truth.

theyve made the expression of any personal opinions or group debates over their official versions of biblical truths subject to disciplinary action often leading to someone being disfellowshipped.. .

that is why i feel that i must keep my own identity somewhat anonymous.

wantstoleave

Nice read. Alot of good, honest points and viewpoints of current Jw's I'd assume. It's nice hearing from an elder.