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  Help - am I on the fence??

  by wantstoleave in

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  please bear with me, newbie here :).

  i have had doubts for a few years now.

  i was raised in the truth, baptised at 16, married at 24...the usual stuff.

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  The notion of JWs having 'the truth' is what bothers me alot these days. How do we KNOW it is the truth? But if it IS the truth, then I'm crapped on for even doubting it. Oops! It's not like history where we can base knowledge on something solid. This religion requires alot of faith. But Im one of those types of people who needs evidence. Solid evidence. Not just a blind faith.

  Then I get things running through my mind like rainbows; and the flood. And dinosaur bones being found, and did they die during the flood? So I keep weighing up faith with logic, trying to build fact. I am completely muddled. There are so many questions I have. Is it wrong of me not to trust in faith? Is there something wrong with me for not taking what I know and just plain ole believing it? Am I just not trusting in God enough?
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  Elder Book: Don't DF JWs who talk to DFed family. Usually. Your take?

  by Open mind in

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  if you've been reading here for long, this won't come as news to you.. i don't have my elder book with me right now, but here's the gist of what it says about what the elders should do when they find out a jw talked to a dfed family member.. 'generally, disfellowshiping is not necessary when a congregation member speaks to a close relative who is dfed.

  provided there is no condoning or justifying of the wrong course.'.

  that is a paraphrase, but i'm pretty sure that "justifying of the wrong course" is close to verbatim.. two questions:.

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  WLD...wow, yes, totally hypocritical behaviour on the shunning bit. Makes you wonder what point they were trying to prove. Just doesnt make sense does it.
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  Hey, My JW Wife Went to a Catholic Church Funeral

  by OnTheWayOut in

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  this is huge (to me).

  my wife won't clink glasses.

  she won't watch anything r-rated or any shows/movies with a mystical or religious theme or undertone.

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  Its like the putting flowers on a gravestone thing. Some JWs do, others dont. It wouldnt bother my conscience putting flowers at someones grave, but other JWs cant bring themself to. Some dont even visit the gravestone. They figure the person is dead, so no point visiting. I think alot comes down to conscience...and so it should. We are not all the same, though Im sure they'd like us to be.
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  Back Again about Disfellowshipment.... Please Help!!

  by Butterflyleia85 in

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  ok so i'm doing alot better by going on this website and message board... everyone is so incouraging and wise!

  i'm really happy but struggling.. i look at this website and i am down again..... http://www.watchtower.org/e/19880415/article_01.htm.

  if someone can pick at this and help me deal with being disfellowshiped please do so.... i know alot of you are going to be like duh will don't go to jw website or stay away from it.

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  This topic has been really insightful....Im thanking you all for the responses, as a newbie Im learning alot!

  Flipper....wow....what horrible things you've been through!! Good on you for taking a stand. Id never heard of circumstantial fornication until you mentioned it. Seems I have alot to learn.

  Butterfly...are your family witnesses? I find it so sad that given you were repentant, you were still DF. Thats just awful. And not loving at all.

  I was before a JC once. For nothing major, but before one nonetheless. To this day I wonder what those 3 brothers were writing down. And Id love to know what happens to the notes they took. How humiliating it was sitting there being at their mercy for forgiveness.
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  JanesyHull

  by jookbeard in

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  are you popping in tonight, wondering if we could continue our little chat from friday night?.

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  Sorry for my ignorance, Im a babe to all this, but why was it part of the UN to start with? I assume other religions are? If so, then it was just 'normal' for JWs to be also? I am trying to understand the topic as best I can lol. What purpose would it serve being part of the UN? And then subsequently not being part of it?
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  Reform, can it be?

  by jookbeard in

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  i like lists.

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  If there was no shunning, there would probably be hardly any JWs left. I believe its fear of shunning that keeps many in the religion.
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  Do nice people who leave the truth have more friends?

  by wouldacouldashoulda in

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  hi posters.

  something has really been bothering me a lot lately.

  in a nutshell i faded about 4 years ago.

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  I had a similar upbringing to Ada in that we werent considered spiritually strong enough to get invites from fellow witnesses, yet we werent allowed to have 'worldly' friends either. So, we had noone but each other and that can get pretty old very fast...lol. You feel like an outcast within your own religion which is meant to be loving and inclusive. Yet when you go to assemblies, meetings and field service, you dont have anyone to hang with. It was a VERY lonely existence. I believe it to be one of the reasons my brother left in fact. I too would have gone sooner if I wasnt so scared of dying at Armageddon and fear of my parents shunning me.

  I agree with alot of the posters here. Try and make some networks around you. Through work/school or whatever it is that you do. Are there any social groups you can join locally? Maybe a walking group? Games nights? Hobby groups?
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  JanesyHull

  by jookbeard in

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  are you popping in tonight, wondering if we could continue our little chat from friday night?.

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  Thanks for the link. Why did they disassociate themselves from the UN? Maybe Im just too new to all of this to grasp how disassociating themselves is a big issue?
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  My sister died in a head on collision last night

  by Bumble Bee in

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  i still can't believe it.

  she was here for the bbq, we had an awesome time, laughing, her telling stories from our childhoods.

  i gave her a hug and told her i loved her before she left.

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  Im sooooo sorry :( This breaks my heart. Did your mother really make that comment about birthdays when you called? Or you thought she would? Sorry, didnt quite understand that part. I feel so badly for you. As if losing your sister wasnt enough, your mum making you feel guilty was a low blow :(
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  JanesyHull

  by jookbeard in

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  are you popping in tonight, wondering if we could continue our little chat from friday night?.

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  White Dove, what is the UN secret involvement? Sorry to just jump in on the thread like that lol. Curious is all :)