Posts by wantstoleave

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What do Americans know about Europe?

by dutchstef in

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i had a lot of fun reading the topic about english spelling and i asked the above question already under that topic, but i think a it's interesting enough to create a new topic.. for instance:.

a) what is the capital city of denmark?.

b) what is the difference between holland and the netherlands.

Why Apostate?

by wantstoleave in

this may have been discussed elsewhere on this board but is something i've become increasingly aware of, and that's the apostasy issue.

growing up, i don't think anyone ever explained what it meant, nor did i ask - i just knew it was 'bad' and punishable by disfellowshipping.

therefore it is fairly embarrassing to say that until a few minutes ago and looking it up in a dictionary, i did not know what the meaning was.

This may have been discussed elsewhere on this board but is something I've become increasingly aware of, and that's the Apostasy issue. Growing up, I don't think anyone ever explained what it meant, nor did I ask - I just knew it was 'bad' and punishable by disfellowshipping. Therefore it is fairly embarrassing to say that until a few minutes ago and looking it up in a dictionary, I did not know what the meaning was. It was just a part of being a JW that I accepted.

Imagine my surprise when I found Apostate to mean: 'A person who forsakes his religion, cause, party etc'.

Not some ungodly person out to destroy other peoples lives. Or someone who sets out to indoctrinate members of their previous faith with new thoughts. Merely someone who leaves the religion.

So why then the negative connotation? I don't understand why the organisation feels the need to make such a deal of an apostate. Am I missing something? Or are others in agreeance and just as confused as me?

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An Elder wrote anomously...

by Butterflyleia85 in

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i realize as an elder that i am speaking out against the very organization i try to faithfully represent, but i personally think that the governing body is wrong by teaching that only what they teach us, as printed in the watchtower publications, should be considered to be the truth.

theyve made the expression of any personal opinions or group debates over their official versions of biblical truths subject to disciplinary action often leading to someone being disfellowshipped.. .

that is why i feel that i must keep my own identity somewhat anonymous.

wantstoleave

Nice read. Alot of good, honest points and viewpoints of current Jw's I'd assume. It's nice hearing from an elder.

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Brits, Scots, and SA's Don't Know How to Spell

by snowbird in

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on the handy ladies thread, i noticed that loubelle mentioned changing tyres..

it's t-i-r-e.. also, a car has a hood - not bonnet.. and, it's organization - not organisation.. sheesh!.

sylvia.

wantstoleave

Bangers and mash....sausages and potatoe :)

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I Don't Have to Be "RIGHT" Anymore.

by OnTheWayOut in

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for the record, i don't believe in the god of the bible, and i find it hard to believe in the god of any religion on earth.

i am closest to atheist in my beliefs if you want a traditional title, but i prefer "rationalist.

" i will do god's will for me when he directly tells me what it is.

wantstoleave

I think because they believe they have the truth, thats it...final...end of story. They truly in their heart of hearts think they are hand picked, so of course noone else can be correct about anything. It's not something they're born with, otherwise everyone in the world would have this degree of arrogance (some would say passion) in everything they did. But because Jw's believe they have 'the truth', it places them above everyone else. I think the degree of arrogance/passion they exude is learnt.

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What do Americans know about Europe?

by dutchstef in

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i had a lot of fun reading the topic about english spelling and i asked the above question already under that topic, but i think a it's interesting enough to create a new topic.. for instance:.

a) what is the capital city of denmark?.

b) what is the difference between holland and the netherlands.

wantstoleave

I bet most people think Kangaroos jump through Aussie streets - they don't. Lol.

As for Europe...don't know a whole lot, that's what Google is for :)

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Resurrection or re-creation?

by teel in

this thing (along with jehovah's capability to know everything before, wich leads to predetermination) bothered me the most while i was a practicant jw, and the topic of jws mourning brought it back to me.

maybe someone could shed a light on how jws cope with this problem.

i've seen this mentioned at other places too, so it's not just me who thought of this problem.. as we all know, jw doctrine tells that absolutely nothing survives the death.

wantstoleave

Now my brain hurts more :P.....lol

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November 15 Watchtower (Study Edition) - discourages showing affection to your spouse

by CrazyBlonde in

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another gem from the same edition - article to be studied december 28 - january 3 (which most will miss lol coz of summer vacation) entitled "what do your prayers say about you?

" page 6 para 19 reads:.

19 when we are being represented in public prayer, we need to display reverential "fear of god.

wantstoleave

I'm with those that questions 'WHY ???'....why would it stumble anyone? I just don't get that!

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Resurrection or re-creation?

by teel in

this thing (along with jehovah's capability to know everything before, wich leads to predetermination) bothered me the most while i was a practicant jw, and the topic of jws mourning brought it back to me.

maybe someone could shed a light on how jws cope with this problem.

i've seen this mentioned at other places too, so it's not just me who thought of this problem.. as we all know, jw doctrine tells that absolutely nothing survives the death.

wantstoleave

I don't know. I don't pretend to know...lol. Strictly speaking though, you wouldn't be standing there looking at yourself if it were you...copy or otherwise...lol. That's IF this actually happens anyway. This kind of stuff makes my brain hurt...lol.

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Resurrection or re-creation?

by teel in

this thing (along with jehovah's capability to know everything before, wich leads to predetermination) bothered me the most while i was a practicant jw, and the topic of jws mourning brought it back to me.

maybe someone could shed a light on how jws cope with this problem.

i've seen this mentioned at other places too, so it's not just me who thought of this problem.. as we all know, jw doctrine tells that absolutely nothing survives the death.

wantstoleave

I think recent light suggests noone will be resurrected looking exactly as they did before, but that loved ones will be able to recognise the person as they will look similar. Don't mind if someone jumps in and finishes this off for me, I'm a bit rusty on things like this. But I'm fairly sure the thought had changed to this.