I think only an attorney for can really answer that question. There is one around if he will come out.
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during the course of the dateline segment, it was said that manuel beliz denied "molesting and raping" erica, but admitted to "inappropriate touching".. what, if any, is the difference between molesting and touching inappropriately??.
just curious.
love, scully
I think only an attorney for can really answer that question. There is one around if he will come out.
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a number of my fellow nonjw here at work were ready when we got to work.. .
this is what jr stated in effect:.
1.. """""known pedophiles are not allowed hold positions or to go door to door alone""""""".
LOL@ JT love how you say it...heheh
Yes, they are masters of manipulation at the WT! They have all the angles covered.
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first lie: erica.
i dont believe erica lied about her abuse.
obviously it must be true, even mr. beliz confessed that he touched her inappropriately.
Matrix:
The WT encourages the use of threatening slander charges to silence victims on a regular basis. Perhaps you haven't known persons affected by this practice but I have. You need to wake up to reality your still living in LA LA land!
The story on this link: is an example of how I witnesses the elders victimizing the victim. Although it wasn't sexual abuse. When the elders silence dubs for anything it's a shame. When someone lies I tend to believe them. When someone shows a pattern of abuse; I tend to believe they are abusers. The elders tend to show a pattern of abuse by victimizing the victim. So I believe the silentlambs.
Outlaw brilliant rebuttal as usual! It takes a genius to call someone names. Your so informative...[8>]
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a number of my fellow nonjw here at work were ready when we got to work.. .
this is what jr stated in effect:.
1.. """""known pedophiles are not allowed hold positions or to go door to door alone""""""".
JT
Remember it took the Catholic Church 20 yrs and multiple law suits to begin the process of releasing names. They are only doing so after extreme pressure from ALL angles. They have law suits, members of the Church pressuring them and society. The Catholic Church also has extensive political agendas to achieve. The WT perceives that it doesn't have any political agendas. Despite their whoring with the UN!
I don't see the WT releasing names without a major lawsuits. Since we know that the R&F are silenced so there is no pressure from within the social group.
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if we walk away with nothing from this whole issue on dateline .
i think the following is so important .
let us compare the appointed elders who are asked to look into the matter of child molestation,.
JTsays:
The child should be interrogated by a TRAINED EXPERIENCED person FIRST, social worker or police, who are trained
Interrogated is a strong word for this maybe assessed by a trained psychologist would be more accurate. I hope for the children.
"Elders are basically Untrained volunteers" LOL...We all knew this but were told other wise, as you said, over and over again. Hmm... They only make such statements when trying to wiggle out of a tight spot. So, they must be squirming. It feels so good!
In my area many elders are college educated. Some are professors, psychologists, accountants, lawyers and too many programmers to mention. However NONE of them are trained for the special situation of child molestation. An elders lack of education, special training and experience is the issue. These one day meeting to train elders will never make them specially trained for anything. An example is the so called special training the elders received to handling battered woman's issues. It didn't help most of them they still live in the dark ages on everything to do with family issues.
JT It's good to read your thoughts again!
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my jw wife came home from work with.
a story she staying because she ate some chips and.
feeling a little sick.. i asked her if she was watching dateline.
Your right, I've known so many JWs that convince themselves they are sick to avoid service and meetings. It's learned behavior so give her a break and just be happy she is willing to watch it.
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just kidding.. el oh el (c) cygnus 2002 -- all rights reserved
Cyngus *smack* *INorE*
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angry xjw said in a recent post:.
hawkaw (aka freddie franz).".
you've got to be kidding me.
Larc: Everyone is emotional today...It's like this were I work when family sessions are run. It brings up all sorts of feelings but mostly anger.
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angry xjw said in a recent post:.
hawkaw (aka freddie franz).".
you've got to be kidding me.
Troubled: Let's just go to the video...
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=28244&site=3
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as of 1 pm today barb anderson was notified that she has been disfellowshipped in writing by the judicial committee in her congregation.
barb was df in absentia at a second hearing that was declared after she successfully defended herself against charges in the first hearing.
home office came back with further instructions to make it stick the second time around.
(((Barbra)))
Anyone living in reality knows your a hero! Thank you for being so courageous; you are making a difference. You're truly a hero for speaking out!
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