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Where is the Love

by dearone in

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hi i'm dearone i have been reading here for quite some time.

presently am an active witness in good standing with two teenage daughters.

what originally brought me her was disillusion with the lack of love i experienced in the congregations i have attended.

Heaven

Welcome, Dearone!

I have found people of different religions such as Penticostal to be extremely loving and kind.

Yes, I have found the same thing. Amazing, isn't it, what you discover when you look outside the circle of your own existence. I work with all kinds of different people (Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist, Gay, Lesbian, Catholic) and all have been very loving, wonderful, and genuine people. None of them are perfect... but neither am I. One of my biggest challenges in life is to eliminate the judging taught to me by my parents, and to adopt compassion and love for others. It takes a conscious and physical effort but I'm working on it.

I will not abide by rules and regulations that are not scriptural.

Yes, the WTS likes to make up some of their own rules that have no scriptural justification. The rules of the Bible were broken, though, even by Christ. I learned from this that there are exceptions to the rules and that love and principled action come first, above any rule. When I read Stephen Covey's "7 Habits Of Highly Effective People" and "First Things First" I saw how the information in these 2 books aligned so well with the teachings of Jesus Christ. The rules and regulations of the WTS do not. So what is needed for human beings to thrive is NOT available with the WTS. There is nothing loving, tolerant, or patient when rules and regulations squelch principles.

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District Convention Friday pm talk - Answers to Questions About the Last Days

by yadda yadda 2 in

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does anyone have a report on the content of this talk please?

any "new light"?.

Heaven

steve2 said: In 1971, an obnoxiously over-confident branch representative addressed the district convention in New Zealand. He dramatically raised the question of how much time remained before this "wicked "system ends and then held up his arm way above his head for all to see, exposing the back of his hand with four fingers showing. We all knew what he meant: Four more years. The air was abuzz with excitement. On reflection, maybe each finger stood for one hundred years.....

OMG! That's hilarious! But are you sure it's just one hundred years for each finger? I was thinkin' maybe it's more like 1,000 for each finger. Sheesh!

Here's the favourite quote on www.jwfacts.com today. I was 5 years old when this drivel came out. I'm 45 now. Glad I didn't listen:

Awake!1969 May 22 p.15
"If you are a young person, you also need to face the fact that you will never grow old in this present system of things. Why not? Because all the evidence in fulfillment of Bible prophecy indicates that this corrupt system is due to end in a few years. ... Therefore, as a young person, you will never fulfill any career that this system offers. If you are in highschool and thinking about a college education, it means at least four, perhaps even six or eight more years to graduate into a specialized career. But where will this system of things be by that time? It will be well on the way toward its finish, if not actually gone!"

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Losing the Ego, easier said than done

by homeschool in

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friends

i've read steven hassan's combatting cult mind control, and i can see that it's impossible to say anything negative about their religion/cult.

thats just really stinkin' tough when you have proof and evidence of things and they are in lala land about their cult!

about ten years ago, i was a lot more outspoken about how i felt about the jw's, but have since grown up a bit.

Heaven

her answer of 'it isn't a club' was spot on.

That's correct. It's a high mind-control, religious cult.

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Just been visited

by scotinsw in

i have just been visited by two local jws who had heard i had moved into the area and wanted to say hello.. i'm going to be having words with my parents later as they are the only people who could have given out my name and address.. they were ok with me.

i explained that i had been let down in the past by witnesses and that being a jw wasn't for me.

any idea what will happen next?

Heaven

Welcome to the Forum, scotinsw! How can you be hauled into a JC? Were you baptized? If not, then they have no grounds to do this. And even if you were baptized, they still have no grounds. You just don't go. The only power they have over you is what you give them. I say, Give Them None!

As for them coming back, if you've told them you're not interested and they DO keep coming back, you could threaten them with legal action on the grounds of harassment. There are a number of ways of dissuading them nicely. You could launch into a story they really don't want to be listening to, for one. Tell them you get the mags from your parents as another. Or you could answer the door dressed in some weird outfit like some Pagan or medieval get-up... or maybe Santa Claus? If you're feeling particularly saucy, answer the door naked. They usually steer clear of (perceived) nut cases!

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Hello everyone

by Wordlygirl in

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i have been lurking on here for some time and i finally decided to join the fray.

i am 25 years old and was raised in the society.

fortunately when i was 8, my father left the organization and this allowed me to see the wrold from both angles, the jw (mom) and not (dad).. at first, i was strongly on the side of the witnesses and i even allowed myself to be convinced that getting baptised at 11 was a good idea.

Heaven

How do you do put an avatar on this board?

That hasn't been set up yet. We are waiting on Simon to enable this for us. The site is relatively new and that ability is presently being worked on. We're all dying to update ours as well!

What do you think you will choose for your avatar?

44

Wow

by mrsjones5 in

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my 11 year old daughter wrote this.

it's based on a book called "the cay" by theodore taylor that was told from the perspective of a boy.

at sunset, the air was heavy and hot.

Heaven

That's Wonderful, Josie! She definitely has talent. If she truly enjoys writing, I hope she pursues it further.

It always used to bother me when, as a child, I was treated like I had nothing to offer or that I didn't know anything by some adults.

I love talking to kids to hear their views and see their work. The old addage "Children should be seen and not heard" in my mind is a load of crap! My neice and nephews are hilarious and crack me up all the time, even when they were little! They are all intelligent and have always had much to offer and contribute. I wouldn't change that for the world.

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Chrisler makes first Witness friendly car!

by Witness 007 in

the new look "witness 607 chrisler" has "new light" headlights to see into the future...but no rear window since you don't need to look into the past.

it seats 24 adults, with no seat belts or saftey features at all, except "pray power.

" the horn sound is unique as it simply says "jeeehooover" {demon scare tecnology} apostate airbags to knock out anyone with independant thinking.

Heaven

I can't wait for the pics!

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Have you seen thsi on Blood?

by mouthy in

have you seen this?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/790967.stm.

Heaven

I suggest that any JW needing a blood transfusion, goes ahead with it. Since the WTS is having problems retaining members, I expect more of their policies will be changing.

I am very confused as to why the WTS needs to know anything about any medical treatment anyone needs to have. They are not medical professionals. This is personal information and probably falls under many 'Privacy Acts'. They have no need to know this information nor should they in any way have access to it. I personally would not divulge any of this type of information to these clowns. This could be infringing on peoples' legal rights and the WTS needs to be very careful here.

My father hasn't accepted the blood fractions change so I doubt he'll accept this one. The older the mind gets, the less likely to accept change it becomes. The older ones can't keep up with these changes. The WTS is a piece of work!

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[Allow for response]. Then ignore.

by AlphaOmega in

i haven't read any jw stuff for some time now, but this morning i found an electronic copy of the current "our kingdom ministry" in my e-mail.

i had a quick flick through and realised how rude the "doorstep suggestions" are.

quote:what to say about the magazines .

Heaven

Usually I answer them the way they don't expect. Throws them off every time. So let's go through this set of questions.

First Question: "Do you think it's possible to find inner peace in these troubled times?"

Heaven's Answer: "Why, Yes! Most definitely. I believe in the teachings of Jesus Christ. He is 'The Way, And The Truth, And The Life'".

Next Question: "Most of us are thankful for what our parents have taught us. Do you think it is disrespectful to examine the religious teachings we learned as a child?"

Heaven's Answer: "Absolutely Not. That's why I went online and started reading about the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society. I found out many things that are in error about my religious upbringing."

Next Question: "Some say that all religions are different roads that lead to the same God. Do you think that all religions are good?"

Heaven's Answer: "I think every single religion on the face of this earth, including the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, are man-made and all of them use the Bible for their own purposes. I choose not to participate in man-made religious organizations. I seek a High Power."

Next Question: "All of us have been victims of unfair discrimination. How do you think God feels about prejudice?"

Heaven's Answer: "Since God created all things, then he created prejudism, especially the discrimination between men and women. I choose to follow the teachings of Jesus Christ as he is the one who taught to 'love thine enemy' as well as to have patience and tolerance. As I said before, he is 'The Way, And The Truth, And The Life".

Maybe some of you can use this if they come to your door. When they go to show me the magazines, I say "Oh yes. My father is a Jehovah's Witness. I get the magazines from him." I find they don't like talking to people who know about them and the Bible ... especially when your answer differs from theirs and cannot be refuted.

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Hello everyone

by Wordlygirl in

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friends

i have been lurking on here for some time and i finally decided to join the fray.

i am 25 years old and was raised in the society.

fortunately when i was 8, my father left the organization and this allowed me to see the wrold from both angles, the jw (mom) and not (dad).. at first, i was strongly on the side of the witnesses and i even allowed myself to be convinced that getting baptised at 11 was a good idea.

Heaven

Welcome Wordlygirl! I am very sorry to hear about your husband. Unfortunately, in this life, at some point we all lose people we love. I sure hope you get to see him again one day! And...I am so glad you have your daughter. What a wonderful gift!

I wake every morning and look forward to seeing the most beautiful little face I have ever seen.

Awwww, that's so sweet! You will be a great Mom.