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  Honest Questions About Child Abuse

  by Richard Oliver in

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  2. child-abuse

  i have two honest questions for everyone here.

  i understand that most here want retribution from the courts against watchtower for child abuse allegations.

  but let us take away the instances where someone was accused of child abuse and then later put back into a position of authority, such as an elder or an ms. let us just take the cases where a regular publisher or even an appointed person, with no previous accusation of child abuse has come up against that person.

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  Why do you feel that Watchtower is responsible for that person's actions against the child?

  
  
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  What's Up?

  by FedUpJW in

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  2. tech-support

  just wondering if anyone else has noticed that this forum site listing in google has dropped to number 6?.

  two days ago it was number 3.. i wonder why all the jay double u dot org listings are so rapidly moving up the list?.

  even noticed one that said something about jay double u dot org donations link..

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  It's me. I don't use the Google much anymore. I use DuckDuckGo now. ;0)
  
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  Merry Pantsmas Everyone!

  by Billy the Ex-Bethelite in

  1. social
  2. humour

  okay, i posted this in a thread that got locked and buried.

  since then i've been really busy and have overdosed on christmas music in the past week.

  so, i'm resurrecting this "holy day" holiday that most people will unknowingly be celebrating tomorrow.

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  Well I see I've already posted those Fairy Light leggings like 2 pages back. Time for something a little different then. How about mixing Hallowe'en and Christmas for another double whammy of Pagan? Nightmare Before Christmas Leggings! Yeah.
  

  
  
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  Merry Pantsmas Everyone!

  by Billy the Ex-Bethelite in

  1. social
  2. humour

  okay, i posted this in a thread that got locked and buried.

  since then i've been really busy and have overdosed on christmas music in the past week.

  so, i'm resurrecting this "holy day" holiday that most people will unknowingly be celebrating tomorrow.

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  Well it's once again that time of the year. And to celebrate, here are some more tight pants with Christmas designs. These are called Fairy Lights Leggings so a double wammo with the pagan fairy theme. Merry Pantsmas Everyone!

  
  
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  Vow of Obedience and Poverty? WTF??

  by NikL in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  listener on here started a cool thread about the april 2017 wt which can be found here.... https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/4881380162928640/watchtower-april-2017-overview.

  it got me to look at it closer and in the opening study they use terminology i've never heard used before namely, "vow of obedience and poverty".... 19 currently, there are some 67,000 members of the worldwide order of special full-time servants of jehovah’s witnesses.

  some perform bethel service, others engage in construction or in circuit work, serve as field instructors or special pioneers or missionaries or as assembly hall or bible school facility servants.

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  There is nothing good about poverty. Not one thing.
  
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  MERRY CHRISTMAS

  by jhine in

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  2. entertainment

  l don't visit very often now , but l wanted to drop in to wish all you folks a merry christmas and happy new year .

  as l cannot find a thread already started for this l have started one !

  in the immortal words of chuck berry ( l think ) " come on everybody " join in wishing your fellow posters a merry christmas , happy holidays etc .

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  Found this online and it made me chuckle:

  
  
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  April 2017 wt says you can't undo a dedication to God

  by poopie in

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  2. friends

  if that's true then you can't say such and such is no longer aa jehovahs witnesses .

  now i'm not very educated but is this like contradictory..

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  Crazyguy said: What if the Jehovah is just a myth?

  There really isn't an easy way to tell people that they've dedicated their life to a folly.
  
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  Is it morally wrong to put Watchtower behind?

  by Darkknight757 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  with our latest and final run in with the elders, the wife and i had a very long talk about what's next in our life.

  do we try to help others see the light as it were concerning watchtower or do we just let it go and move on with our life?

  we have made it perfectly clear that we will never go back to watchtower and we are finally happy.

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  Darkknight said: After a long talk the wife and I agreed that it serves no purpose to have those idiots over

  Bingo! Darkknight, you and your wife are 100% correct, spot on here. And I completely agree with cofty.

  It is not wrong to want to move on, to move as far away from something that drains all of your energy. You owe them nothing. If you stay, you will only become ill. Love yourself and your wife. Get the hell away from this cancer.
  
  
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  God’teachings or men’s personal opinions and interpretations ?

  by MacHislopp in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  before addressing the topic, i would like you to keep in mind the following statement coming from the society’s governing body:

  · 'the golden age' january 18th, 1933 page 252.

  · "if the message the jehovah's witnesses are bringing to the people is true, then it is of greatest importance to mankind.

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  God's natural language is silence. All others are bad translations.
  
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  The Book of the Dead

  by schnell in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  as i've been reading the book "what did africa contribute to the origins of religion" by robin walker, i've been fascinated with walker's work and it's led me to something i never thought i'd want to read.

  the egyptian book of the dead.. i got a copy of e.a.

  wallis budge's 19th century translation of the papyrus of ani from barnes and noble, so i'm sure everyone here can procure a copy or find it free online.

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  schnell, "The Book of the Dead" is a good choice.

  As children raised in any faith, we are indoctrinated from birth to only the agenda of the authorities of that faith. It is only as we get older, and we begin to apply logic, reason, mathematics, and a number of other different disciplines, including researching previous belief systems to the one we've been raised in, that we come to realize we have been manipulated, lied to, and for many in the Christian faith, maneuvered through the Bible to suit a religious agenda.

  Christianity adopted much of the previous belief systems. I figure it was partly due to people not wanting to give up their traditions and also partly to attract people to the new cult. There are many similar themes found in Christianity that are in the Egyptian "Book of the Dead". Knowing that this book was written before the Bible is important too as, at least for me, I was led to believe that Christianity was unique, and THE only solution and way to live.
  

  Xanthippe said: I've always thought it odd that they revered the dung beetle.

  Manure has many beneficial uses and was used extensively in ancient times for various applications. Even today, as an example, paper is made from elephant dung, due to it's high plant fiber content.

  The dung beetle was associated with the divine manifestation of the early morning sun, Khepri, whose name was written with the scarab hieroglyph and was believed to roll the disk of the morning sun over the eastern horizon at daybreak. Since the scarab hieroglyph, Kheper, refers variously to the ideas of existence, manifestation, development, growth, and effectiveness, the beetle itself was a favourite form used for amulets in all periods of Egyptian history. In later parts of the period, they symbolically represented the heart and were placed in the bandages of mummies of the deceased. A winged scarab might also be placed on the breast of the mummy, and later a number of other scarabs were placed about the body.