Posts by 1Averagejoe

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Child Abuse - "I don't care. I haven't got any children".

by cofty in

earlier this week i bumped into a couple of jws who i recognised from the cult cart.

a few months ago i had a long conversation with him one of them and found him to be quite friendly.

he is new to the area in the years since i left.. this time he was very defensive and said he wasn't allowed to talk to me.

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Joe Grundy. Seems to me that when JWs know they have nothing to say they fall back on infantile comments.

True. The ranks are not prepared to deal with questions to their face of this nature. True cognative desonance. Their "it's not true, it's not happening comments turn out to be" I don't care. " Maybe they should start thinking of having such issues demonstrated at their service meetings. I wonder if it will be considered in the UK to talk about how to handle this issue during their field service group meetings in the following weeks?

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The Report - BBC Radio 4 about Jehovah's Witnesses and Child Sexual Abuse can now be heard

by AndersonsInfo in

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0612hjs.

the report about child abuse and jehovah's witnesses is now live.. jehovah's witnesses handle child abuse cases.

jehovah's witnesses and child sexual abuse, the report - bbc radio 4 .

1Averagejoe

Thank you all, thank you nicolaou for that download link. It worked. Very nicely done report. It would have been a plus to get in that report jwtv's comment that we should not listen to such reports as they are appostate, but it seems the BBC report was compiled before that.

All in all this report will go along way. I beleive its not the first of such report from BBC or others. Anyone has links from any of such I can download?

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July 19th Watchtower Summary. Insanity

by Lemonp in

just got back from the wt study and it overall was just so blindingly biased and leading.. i had to read it from the platform too, i hope they couldn't see the confounded look on my face as i read this craziness out!.

first we consider the faith of abel, enoch, noah, abraham, isaac and jacob, and moses.. all of these people are held up as sterling examples of blind faith, with the article pointedly saying that their imaginations sustained their faith in gods promises for them.

no mention anywhere at all that all of these characters saw and talked to angels, spoke to god himself, saw and performed miracles, or any of the other feats experienced by these characters.

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Datagdog This horrible article seems to be aimed at the Elderly who are now too weak, mentally and emotionally, to leave the ORG. After decades of misquoting their savior, they now have to ask, " where else would we go?"

That goes on in the next article. Older brother with poor eyesight. See that terrified look on his face? That according to paragraphs 5 and 6 that he can't read the bible and go from house to house, a statement repeated twice regarding this old brother. Puleeze!

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Power blackout during the meeting tonight!

by stuckinarut2 in

it was so funny!.

the small rented hall our congregation uses had a blackout.

we think there was some construction work next door that caused it.. at least the glow of everyone's tablets and cell phones kept the place illuminated!.

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Lol. Is that an issue there? We have it almost every thursday due to power rationing here in the dark continent. So we're better prepared for the blackouts that the meeting parts. ;D

Make's it hard to read irrelevant material though!

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Power blackout during the meeting tonight!

by stuckinarut2 in

it was so funny!.

the small rented hall our congregation uses had a blackout.

we think there was some construction work next door that caused it.. at least the glow of everyone's tablets and cell phones kept the place illuminated!.

1Averagejoe

Lol. Is that an issue there? We have it almost every thursday due to power rationing here in the dark continent. So we're better prepared for the blackouts that the meeting parts. ;D

Make's it hard to read irrelevant material though!

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Will the Watchtower ever turn against K-12 public education?

by cappytan in

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friends

when i was in school, you never heard about critical thinking skills...not till you started taking college level courses.. i work closely with the public education community.

now, the big rage in public education is instilling critical thinking skills from kindergarten on up.. and i'm in texas!

imagine what it's like in more liberal areas.. i would not be surprised if the watchtower started denigrating and discouraging public education (k-12).. it would likely start like this: .

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Jws But think they'd actually do it? I don't think it's their business model.

They just might. That was the hoola baloo they tried with jw youths going to boarding schools. That our kids would not be supervised in Jehovah's ways to remove the brain washing pressure from schools and educators.

This too would prove a threat to their ice cream money since their drive now seems a lot focused on the little ones. They just might intervene.

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Where are all these New Anointed Ones Coming from?

by John Aquila in

back in the early 70s, right before 1975 we had about 7 or 8 thousand professed anointed.

cant remember the exact number.

but at every convention we were told that the end is close ---because---the number of anointed is getting smaller and smaller.

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Hey.!! See how quickly we've moved from going to holy heaven to unholy sex? ;D

"Mixing food from Jehovah's table and demons." Seems we were well trained at our kingdom halls.

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How much damage has internet done against the The Watchtower Society ?

by opusdei1972 in

in the beginning of internet the society was worried about the information published exposing its falsehood.

so, i wonder how many people lost the society on account of forums and web sites like this.

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Without the internet I would never ever have had a copy to read of Franz's Crisis and In Search. Other sites/ forums such as this one exposing the Borg would be imposibble. Never would have the news of the child abuse and other crimes within and cover ups to support the idea that we have a "spiritual paradise" . That info wouldn't exist. And we would feel alone with our doubts and later when fading.

Somewhere said now "In the age of information Ignorance is a choice."

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Monsters Inc. & The Org

by The Searcher in

the monsters inc. hierarchy taught its workforce to use scare tactics to achieve its goals.. it took sully & mikey to reveal that love & laughter was far more effective - and beneficial for everyone concerned!.

interesting concept, but it'll never catch on!

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1Averagejoe

Good movie! Nice story. Good buddy flick. No, your right. we can't have a control cult and use laugh tactics. No one will take you seriously. Can't control with guilt and happiness at the same time.

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If You Continue to do Bad, Sooner or Later You Will Get Caught.

by John Aquila in

when one person finally spoke out that she was raped by cosby, no one believed it.

then another person came out and the line started getting drawn in the sand.

you now had two groups of people.

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This sunday an elder used the same Cosby issue saying how the past comes up against a trusted respected old man due to his sins. Used it to show how we just can't trust the world. I can see it will be used again and again to misdirect attention saying it's safer in here. It doesn't seem that many in my area including elders are aware or want to face the facts that the sins that take place within the borg are so prevalent. Something more shattering has to take place within the borg here for others to wake up. The majority don't seek knowledge outside so no mass awakening. Sob!