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Don't believe what you read in the newspapers

by 1Averagejoe in

foolish is the man who neverreads a newspaper; even morefoolish is the man who believeswhat he reads just becauseit is in the newspaper .august von schlozer,german historianand publicist (1735-1809).

i came across this articke in the october 15th wt.

page 30.

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Secretslaveclass. My apologies I didn't paste the wt comments clearly distinct from my comments. Please refer to the wt I quoted from to see where it ends. But am glad you too agree that the wt tries to dissuade it's followers to avoid them getting information as in the cases of child abuse which are true and alarming. Thanks too for your added information. They also are instilling into the minds of their followers quilt when they either come across such news and perhaps report those who spread such news. Training the people to towards "willful" ignorance when it comes to the reality of the Borg's crimes and failings thus being exposed.

“There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn't true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true.”
― Søren Kierkegaard

All in the name of protecting the wt society the little ones would suffer and if such exposure would not take place then there would be no change in their mentality to protect the "little lambs." The mentality is screwed up right down to the lord elders who can't be criticised for even small things. Just for your information due to several reasons in my experience and research I boiled with hate at all the lies and have resigned as an elder and will not support any of the activities they had imposed upon me. You are welcomed to wish me luck and give advice on my fade. ;)

“Sometimes we find ourselves walking through life blindfolded, and we try to deny that we're the ones who securely tied the knot.”
― Jodi Picoult, Vanishing Acts

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Don't believe what you read in the newspapers

by 1Averagejoe in

foolish is the man who neverreads a newspaper; even morefoolish is the man who believeswhat he reads just becauseit is in the newspaper .august von schlozer,german historianand publicist (1735-1809).

i came across this articke in the october 15th wt.

page 30.

1Averagejoe

Lol. In creol Kak is "kaka, " but in swahili the word "kaka" means brother. Just saying.

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Don't believe what you read in the newspapers

by 1Averagejoe in

foolish is the man who neverreads a newspaper; even morefoolish is the man who believeswhat he reads just becauseit is in the newspaper .august von schlozer,german historianand publicist (1735-1809).

i came across this articke in the october 15th wt.

page 30.

1Averagejoe

“Foolish is the man who neverreads a newspaper; even morefoolish is the man who believeswhat he reads just becauseit is in the newspaper .”—August von Schlözer,German historianand publicist (1735-1809). I came across this articke in the October 15th wt. Page 30. "The naive person believes every word. " The objective of the article summary is in these paragraphs;" And what should you do if you ﬁnd slanderousnews abouts Jehovah's organisation on the Internet? Such material should be ﬁrmly rejected.Some feel that they must bring it to the attention of others to get their opinion ,but all that does is propagate the malicious information. If we feel troubled about something we see on the Internet, we should ask Jehovah for wisdom andspeak to mature brothers about it. (Jas. 1:5, 6;Jude 22, 23) Jesus, who was the object of false accusations, warned his followers that enemies would persecute them and "lyingly say every sort of wicked thing against [them].” (Matt. 5:11; 11:19; John 10:19-21) We need to use “thinking ability”and “discernment” to identify “the man speaking perverse things” and those “whose entire course is devious.”—Prov. 2:10-16.RESPECT THE RIGHT OF OTHERSWe also have to be careful about news or expe-riences of a spiritual nature that we receive sec-ond hand.Even if a report is true, it does not nec-essarily mean that it should be spread.There maybe times when it would be neither right nor lov-ing to distribute true accounts to others. (Matt.7:12) For example, it is neither loving nor up-buildingto spread gossip, even though the infor-mation may be true. (2 Thess. 3:11; 1 Tim. 5:13)Some news may be of a conﬁdential nature, andwe should respect the right of others to di-vulge the information at the proper time throughthe appropriate channels. Spreading informationahead of time can do much harm."
I wonder what the jw field activity will be like in Australia this month after their newspapers highlight the child abuse issue. It would be interesting to have someone there give us a feedback on reactions of the publishers, studies, and attendance at meetings after all this exposure. What are the discussions at their field service meetings in preparing the flock with what to say in defending their faith. Will they have local needs parts to handle this issue in the coming months?

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Dino Ali Taking the Stand NOW

by AudeSapere in

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dino ali, elder, taking the stand now in the australian hearings.. he's talking about interaction with disfellowshipped persons.. watch it live: .

http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.

-aude..

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Thank you nicolai again. Hopefully we can soon get audio downloads to the hearing, much easier to replay and distribute. Thanks

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Say Something Jehovah's Witnessy........

by minimus in

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i know there's no such word as "witnessy" but this can be a fun thread.

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Of Those moving to land of opportunity...

"They are moving to where the greed is great!" heard at assemblies.

" Pioneering is the best job this side of the system. " said a father of two pioneer daugthers.

" Even if you feel the counsel is wrong you can display humility and accept it. "

" It's Jehovah's discipline cause he loves you."

Why go for higher education to be a doctor? You'll be useless in the new system.

"We thank the faithful slave..."

"It's almost the end of the month I have to get my hours in."

"This sister's always late for the meetings!" never mind she has 4 kids to get ready.

"wow, she got married to an elder!"

So and so never comments at the meetings.

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"Don't you love Jehovah anymore then ?"

by Phizzy in

mrs phizzy ran into a jw lady from a neighbouring congo who has known us since we were teenagers, before we married, sometime in the pleistocene era lol.. during the conversation said lady asked if mrs phizzy was going to the r.c, to which mrs phizzy replied, "oh you haven't heard, we no longer go to meetings".. the jw lady then came back with the question in the thread title, which mrs phizzy handled well.. the point of this is though, what a god-awful, stupid, cult-minded question to ask !.

did she think we woke up one morning and thought "we don't love god anymore" ??

would that happen to anyone ?.

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I have to pray. You know God don’t like me. You know He don’t like me. All the hell I did in my lifetime, you know He don’t like me at all” – Madea

“I’m going by the church, I didn’t say I was Going TO CHURCH. I said BY the church.” – Madea

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"Don't you love Jehovah anymore then ?"

by Phizzy in

mrs phizzy ran into a jw lady from a neighbouring congo who has known us since we were teenagers, before we married, sometime in the pleistocene era lol.. during the conversation said lady asked if mrs phizzy was going to the r.c, to which mrs phizzy replied, "oh you haven't heard, we no longer go to meetings".. the jw lady then came back with the question in the thread title, which mrs phizzy handled well.. the point of this is though, what a god-awful, stupid, cult-minded question to ask !.

did she think we woke up one morning and thought "we don't love god anymore" ??

would that happen to anyone ?.

1Averagejoe

They asked why we missed meetings.... Jeh isnt the one who offended us? I said to the elder we haven't left him, in fact we read the bible more than you and discuss it everyday. He just smiled. Which is true. Look at how we apoststes know our bibles. When we left Bethel we had to tell them, it's not like we've left Jehovah! We were one step ahead before they asked. And that was that. Like you said "have a nice day!"

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If disfellowshipping so important why is it not mentioned one time in the bible teach book

by poopie in

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if it is what page.

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I was handed a bible study while the "teacher" was away. This bible student asked what did it mean when the announcement was made that someone is no longer a jw. This student is regular at all meetings, had started preaching and was about to be announced as a publisher when he got into some trouble and got a private reproof(!?) not to comment or preach. He is still in the bible teach book. So I tried enlightening him and will show him what the second book says to see his reaction. At least he will know early but he looks hooked to the borg already.

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JW Hatred and Elders Apathetic Manners Drove Me Here! Why are JWs fooled in to thinking the WTS Cares?

by Judas Maccabee in

for years i've been screwed with by some very bad people, people satan would kick out of his organization because even the devil might let up on evil just to allow someone to catch their breath.

with the jwism's bad people move up while good people move down or leave the kingdom hall for good.

i was talking with two elders who said "you know if you return to the kingdom hall, jehovah will bless you and these people will stop screwing with you.

1Averagejoe

First of all congratulate yourself for being awake and that your heart was not blinded by the corrupt thinking that the others still decide to keep in the organisation. Many of us here have resigned as elders and are on our fadding journey. Please read through the forums on the advice to think and go cautiously in your fade. As for your wife, seems she didn't give you the real picture of who she really was before you got together. It's common. She sounds like one who would go all lengths to self preserve and make your fade (and life) absolutely difficult by talking about you to the jw's on all what you say and do.

Welcome, thanks for your post and sorry for the trials you are going through.

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Child Abuse - "I don't care. I haven't got any children".

by cofty in

earlier this week i bumped into a couple of jws who i recognised from the cult cart.

a few months ago i had a long conversation with him one of them and found him to be quite friendly.

he is new to the area in the years since i left.. this time he was very defensive and said he wasn't allowed to talk to me.

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Joe Grundy. Seems to me that when JWs know they have nothing to say they fall back on infantile comments.

True. The ranks are not prepared to deal with questions to their face of this nature. True cognative desonance. Their "it's not true, it's not happening comments turn out to be" I don't care. " Maybe they should start thinking of having such issues demonstrated at their service meetings. I wonder if it will be considered in the UK to talk about how to handle this issue during their field service group meetings in the following weeks?