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  missing the JWD glory days

  by fresh prince of ohio in

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  don't get me wrong, this forum currently has plenty of interesting discussions and posters, but, for those of you who weren't on the old jwd board in the early-to-mid-00s, man...i'm sorry but you really missed out on the glory years of this forum.

  it was really a special, unique place then.

  again, not dissing the current, but, that huge exciting wave of ex-jw internet activity that occurred in the early part of this century seems to have leveled off.

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  But it was great - Farkel, Gumby, Maximus, AlanF, Narkissos, Leolaia, Blondie, Robdar, Amazing1914. All those posters made/make me think.

  Going back & reading the best of threads Lady Lee put together would be eye opening for a newbie.
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  Future NooLight: Let's get prophesying

  by Sapphy in

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  i've been thinking about how the governing body now say they are the faithful and discrete slave, and trying to think about how this will play out.. as i understand it, the 15th july wt now says that the fds is identified with the governing body since 1971, and before that with a small group of anointed brothers taking the lead at watchtower hq since 1919.. of course they can't come out and say that the fds before 1971 was the wt board of directors because for a few years in the late 1940s hayden covington was both on the board of directors, and he was vice pres of the wt society too.

  hayden covington was not anointed and never claimed to be.

  he was 'other sheep' through and through.. .

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  OTWO - Yeah I remember the helpers idea, I think they justified it with reference to the "Nethanim". They floated it and promptly stoped talkin about it, but didn't retract it.

  Oubliette - I agree with everything you write, it's just that I do believe the WT writers do at least try not to obviously contradict themselves. But we'll see more and more contradictions coming through as the younger writers take on more.

  The primary doctrine of the WT Society is "Be Obedient To Us", everything else is subject to change.
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  Future NooLight: Let's get prophesying

  by Sapphy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've been thinking about how the governing body now say they are the faithful and discrete slave, and trying to think about how this will play out.. as i understand it, the 15th july wt now says that the fds is identified with the governing body since 1971, and before that with a small group of anointed brothers taking the lead at watchtower hq since 1919.. of course they can't come out and say that the fds before 1971 was the wt board of directors because for a few years in the late 1940s hayden covington was both on the board of directors, and he was vice pres of the wt society too.

  hayden covington was not anointed and never claimed to be.

  he was 'other sheep' through and through.. .

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  I've been thinking about how the governing body now say they are the faithful and discrete slave, and trying to think about how this will play out.

  As I understand it, the 15th July WT now says that the FDS is identified with the governing body since 1971, and before that with a small group of anointed brothers taking the lead at watchtower HQ since 1919.

  Of course they can't come out and say that the FDS before 1971 was the WT Board of Directors because for a few years in the late 1940s Hayden Covington was both on the board of directors, and he was Vice Pres of the WT Society too. Hayden Covington was not anointed and never claimed to be. He was 'other sheep' through and through.

  So, maybe the next iteration of noolight might go something like this:

  "Up until now only anointed brothers have served as members of FDS, however Jesus said that the two folds would become one flock. Is it not ever more evident that now, deep in the last days, the two folds are serving unitedly as one? Is there any scriptural precedent for non Israelites or non anointed to take the lead in serving kingdom interests? Why yes! Nethanim, John the Baptist, Hayden Covington...

  So it is reasonable to conclude that as this system's end draws ever nearer Jehovah may see fit to appoint experienced and faithful brothers from among the other sheep class to serve alongside anointed brothers on the governing body. Jesus will apoint the good and faithful servant over all his belongings when all the anointed have recieved their heavenly rewards. After Armageddon when the marriage of the lamb is complete it is only natural that things will continue to take place 'orderly and by arrangement', how confident we can be that with the institution of the Governing body of other sheep Jehovah is safeguarding our spiritual paradise"

  Or something like that.

  What's your prediction for the next doctrinal 'adjustment'
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  British zone visit from David Splane - a report from the special meeting in Glasgow

  by slimboyfat in

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  well i went to a "special meeting" in the armadillo today where a 2 & 1/2 hour programme was relayed from london at 1pm.

  apparently the letters of invitation only went out a month or so ago and not all congregations were invited.

  there were 2,900 of us from around scotland.

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  Thanks slimboy, always interesting to know what's on the mind of the faithful and discrete princes.

  "He said some people may ask why JWs don't take blood. Tell them "well JWs don't like to get AIDS""

  Tosser.
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  Book: Two Babylons - anyone read it ?

  by *lost* in

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  hi has anyone read this book.

  what did you think ?.

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  If you liked the 'Da Vinci Code' and hate Catholics, then you'll love "The Two Babylons".
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  The Truth of the Matter Is.......

  by Este in

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  it's the end of the world does anyone disagree?.

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  Este - " Eastern countries raising their arms perhaps?"

  Opa Gangnam style?

  Maybe Psy is the King of the East?

  I'll give you an out. When Jesus hasn't come back by 2017, you can recalculate your figures by changing the length of a generation.

  No need to thank me.
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  Demonologia - Demonology - Satan ?

  by *lost* in

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  2. bible

  demonologia - demonology - satan + religion.

  (wiki spanish).

  the branch of theology and mythology that deals with the study of demons and their relationships, hinting at it's origins and nature.

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  So from that we understand that Bulgarians are Heretics.

  Well okay then.
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  New Magazine says birthdays will kill you

  by RayPublisher in

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  2. beliefs

  new july 2013 awake says this on page 3:.

  "there is a 14 percent greater probability that a person over 60 years of age will die on his birthday rather than on other days.".

  wow, they have now proven that birthdays are pagan and not fit for christians!.

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  steve2 " Notice the claimed research simply says there's an increase in the statistical likelihood of death on one's birthday. It does not - repeat does not - say this increased risk is correlated with celebrating one's birthday."

  Exactly right, was coming here to say just that.

  For the implication that any good JW will draw from that article, that celebrating your birthday risks death, they would need to have studied a control group of people wh celebrate their birthdays against people who d not celebrate, assess the birthday death rates of the two groups, allow for stats error and then see if there is a corrolation.

  This article is futile for their purpose.
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  You Can Doubt The Bible, But Don't You Dare Doubt The bOrg

  by Comatose in

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  it's interesting how with believing friends and family you can openly doubt the bible.

  you can doubt the flood and talk about it.

  you can doubt the old testament.

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  Yeah it's telling that the make or break question for apostacy or 'turning away from the faith' is not "do you still believe in Jehovah and Jesus?" it's "do you still believe this is God's organisation?".
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  Evil Slave

  by Marvin Shilmer in

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  evil slave.

  as it turns out, according to watchtower as of now we need only take a look at 8 men of watchtower, and then ask and answer a question in order to be on the safe side.

  my article is titled evil slave and is available at: http://marvinshilmer.blogspot.com/2013/04/evil-slave.html.

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  wha happened - " What's the thinking now?"

  We are at war with Eurasia, we have always been at war with Eurasia. There has never been an evil slave, it never was the Russelites, or the anointed gone bad, or Ray Franz. Jesus was speaking in illustrations, apart from when he was talking about the faithful and discrete slave, that bit is literal. The rest is a metaphorical warning.*

  *This new light is correct at the time of writing**

  **Subject to change.