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How To Construct a Creationist/Theistic Argument

by darkl1ght3r in

15 years ago

how to construct a creationist/theistic argument - by ben spencer.

step 1. come up with a supposed self-apparent, universal, unbreakable, and yet ultimately unprovable "law".. for example:.

all effects require a cause.

15 years ago

superpunk 15 years ago

So what evidence exactly would convence an athiest that God exists?

The same thing he apparently provides to every believer on the face of the earth (or so they claim). Unmistakable Personal Revelation. Nothing else will do it. And I certainly won't go around insisting to people who haven't shared my UPR that it REALLY occurred and therefore they should believe h.e. REALLY exists.

If that happened to me, I would hold the only defensible theistic position;

Yes, I know God exists.

No, I can't prove it.

Leave me alone.

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Livestock - 1st and 2nd Plague

by elder-schmelder in

15 years ago

did all of the livestock die in the 1st plague, or just some of them?.

6 and the lord did just as he had said.

the next morning all the livestock of the egyptians died, but the israelites didnt lose a single animal.. .

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superpunk 15 years ago

why give later instructions to Pharoah to have his people get their livestock to a place of safety when earlier He had devastated it???

Why, indeed?

To me the whole purpose of the bible is to be taught by the most high. With all the contradictions I find myself completely distracted from the message. In other words God seems to be fumbling around trying to get his point across. I mean if you or I wrote a letter to a friend and It was full of contradictions how much credibility would I have?

Dear Doublevision,

The other night me and my friend Jeremy drank all the liquor in our house. Later that evening our armless friend JSHPH drove his 1992 Toyota CAmry over and asked if we had any light rum, so we gave him some.

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Livestock - 1st and 2nd Plague

by elder-schmelder in

15 years ago

did all of the livestock die in the 1st plague, or just some of them?.

6 and the lord did just as he had said.

the next morning all the livestock of the egyptians died, but the israelites didnt lose a single animal.. .

15 years ago

superpunk 15 years ago

Very interesting, thanks.

It's amazing the kind of gymnastical apologetics we'll go through to try and preserve our sacred cows.

Maybe after God destroyed ALL the livestock the Egyptians used the technology they had acquired from their alien warlord masters to clone Israelite sheep.

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How To Construct a Creationist/Theistic Argument

by darkl1ght3r in

15 years ago

how to construct a creationist/theistic argument - by ben spencer.

step 1. come up with a supposed self-apparent, universal, unbreakable, and yet ultimately unprovable "law".. for example:.

all effects require a cause.

15 years ago

superpunk 15 years ago

Saw this yesterday.

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Give Reasons Why The "Memorial" Is A Sham To You

by minimus in

jw
friends

15 years ago

i wouldn't go.

i was given 3 invitations to be given to my daughter, my ex and myself.

i thanked them for the invites and just chuckled to myself.. if you decided to tell a witness why you weren't going to attend, what would you say?

15 years ago

superpunk 15 years ago

It's a commemoration of a human sacrifice to appease an angry god.

No thanks.

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As A Witness You Never Can Do Enough!

by minimus in

jw
friends

15 years ago

the jw rollercoaster continues!

if you still have to go to meetings, i sympathize with you.

i know a few that keep up appearances so that they do not lose their loved family members.

15 years ago

superpunk 15 years ago

*** km 3/93 p. 3 Can You Do More to Honor Jehovah? ***
Can You Do More to Honor Jehovah?

1 That is a vital question for all of us to consider. As faithful imitators of our Master, Jesus Christ, we honor our God today by making public declaration to his name. This is a responsibility that we must shoulder if we are to gain God’s favor. (Mark 13:10; Luke 4:18; Acts 4:20; Heb. 13:15) What an indescribable privilege—yes, honor—to carry this good news to the remaining scattered “sheep” who may yet become part of Jehovah’s universal fold!—John 10:16.

2 Can you and your children do more to honor Jehovah by increasing your activity in the ministry? In ever-increasing numbers worldwide, your brothers and sisters are entering the pioneer service. During the month of April 1992, a peak of 172,145 in the United States were in the special, regular, or auxiliary pioneer service. Have you personally given serious consideration to pioneering? Do you encourage your children to pursue a career in the full-time ministry?

3 Why not analyze your personal feelings toward pioneer service? Whenever the subject is mentioned, do you quickly conclude that your circumstances simply do not permit you to serve as a pioneer minister? It is true that pioneering is not possible for everyone. Scriptural responsibilities and other limitations prevent many from serving full-time. (1 Tim. 5:8) But have you recently given the matter prayerful thought? Have you discussed the subject as a family to see if at least one member can pioneer? The November 15, 1982, issue of The Watchtower made this thought-provoking statement on page 23: “Really, every Christian minister should prayerfully consider whether he can pioneer or not. A South African couple who have pioneered for fifteen years said: ‘Why are we pioneering? Could we ever justify it before Jehovah if we did not?’ Many who are not pioneers could well ask the related question: ‘Can I really justify before Jehovah the fact that I am not a pioneer?’”

4 Another Watchtower article on the subject made this pointed comment: “Each of us should be honest with himself. Do you say, ‘The spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak’? But is the spirit really willing? Let us avoid using the weakness of the flesh as an excuse for the unwillingness of the spirit.”—w78 8/15 p. 23.

Man they layed the guilt on thick with the opening to that one.

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What's your plans on the JW Memorial night?

by dissed in

jw
friends

15 years ago

for the last 13 years, we haven't attended and didn't even care about it.

but since we became card carrying members of jwn in september, we have an interest in what are friends here on jwn are doing.. for us?

we will be watching 'dancing with the stars'.

15 years ago

superpunk 15 years ago

Or if you feel like you need to reflect a little bit, go somewhere nice in nature - a beach, an overlook, a park...and just chill for a while.

God - if there is a god - is surely more accessible out amongst his creation than in a stuffy building.

I forgot the Capitals play the Senators tonight. So I'll be watching that, too. I see the Lord in hockey.

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My first experience at a Christian church--for what it's worth

by bluecanary in

15 years ago

i am dating an advent christian (very similar to baptist).

i went to church with him for the first time yesterday.

i was pleased that he wanted me there because it's nice to be included in things that are meaningful to him.

15 years ago

superpunk 15 years ago

I like going to church's for special services.

But I feel, if you were to commit to just one, eventually you'd see the same stuff you saw with the JWs. When people first visit the Kingdom Hall there are all sorts of things that impress them, and make them feel good, despite your focusing on all the negative. Same thing happens in churches....love bombing gives way to complacency and boredom once you're an established member.

One of my wife's friends talks with us about religion and her church some - her mom gets into it with other members because she's more of a rice christian - and she doesn't appreciate them judging her when she shows up at Christmas and Easter, lol. It is what it is, it's really all the same.

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What's your plans on the JW Memorial night?

by dissed in

jw
friends

15 years ago

for the last 13 years, we haven't attended and didn't even care about it.

but since we became card carrying members of jwn in september, we have an interest in what are friends here on jwn are doing.. for us?

we will be watching 'dancing with the stars'.

15 years ago

superpunk 15 years ago

Found Sheep and crapola - a little (ok....a lot) bit of red wine and crackers could make this night one of the best memorials ever.

I'm just sayin'.

If you don't feel like sitting home see if any bars or cafe's nearby are having open-mic nights. Tuesday's are a pretty common night for that. Sit around and drink beer or coffee for a few hours and maybe actually see someone with a little talent. Sweet deal.

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What's your plans on the JW Memorial night?

by dissed in

jw
friends

15 years ago

for the last 13 years, we haven't attended and didn't even care about it.

but since we became card carrying members of jwn in september, we have an interest in what are friends here on jwn are doing.. for us?

we will be watching 'dancing with the stars'.

15 years ago

superpunk 15 years ago

I'm gonna be watching Lost.

I hate that show so much, but I'm trapped now. I've got to see it through. That's why I can't go to the memorial.

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