Posts by superpunk

3

Judas' Last Supper

by undercover in

it's that time of year again... time to compare the wt teachings concerning the lord's evening meal to what the bible actually says.

from the wt site: http://watchtower.org/e/19980315/article_01.htm.

jerusalem is shrouded in the soft light of dusk as the full moon rises over the mount of olives.

superpunk

So the latter leaned back upon the breast of Jesus and said to him: “Lord, who is it?” 26 Therefore Jesus answered: “It is that one to whom I shall give the morsel that I dip.” And so, having dipped the morsel, he took and gave it to Judas, the son of Simon Is·car´i·ot. 27 And after the morsel then Satan entered into the latter. Jesus, therefore, said to him: “What you are doing get done more quickly.” 28However, none of those reclining at the table knew for what purpose he said this to him.

I could never wrap my head around this. Jesus tells them how he's going to point out his betrayer - then he does it - then John says noone knows why he said what he just said.

43

Why is god hiding?

by AK - Jeff in

what god could have done to show himself:.

he could have left incontrovertible evidence of his existence.he could have made it impossibly evident that mankind has been here only 6000 years, not the 200,000 give or take, that fossil evidence supports.

he could have provided evidence through jesus to millions of non-believers, instead of focusing on a small band of fanatical followers eager to point to 'the messiah'.he could at any time, being the ultimate of beings, just simply show himself in the sky, speak to millions instead of to the lonely occasional deluded sheepherder in the desert, or provide miracles to millions of us as observers - part the ocean, cure cancer and announce it from heaven in a clear unmistakable voice, or instantaneously stop starvation and plague in it's tracks.

superpunk

Something that always bothered me was this constant parroting of the he has hidden these things from the wise and intellectual and revealed them to babes.

The bible writers were no dummies. They could see that the higher learning and intellectualism of the Greeks and Romans was a terrible danger to their God.

"Poisoning the Well". The JWs do the same thing in chapter 1 of all of their bible study aids. "Now, some of your friends and family may want you to stop studying....because they're possessed by Satan."

43

Why is god hiding?

by AK - Jeff in

what god could have done to show himself:.

he could have left incontrovertible evidence of his existence.he could have made it impossibly evident that mankind has been here only 6000 years, not the 200,000 give or take, that fossil evidence supports.

he could have provided evidence through jesus to millions of non-believers, instead of focusing on a small band of fanatical followers eager to point to 'the messiah'.he could at any time, being the ultimate of beings, just simply show himself in the sky, speak to millions instead of to the lonely occasional deluded sheepherder in the desert, or provide miracles to millions of us as observers - part the ocean, cure cancer and announce it from heaven in a clear unmistakable voice, or instantaneously stop starvation and plague in it's tracks.

superpunk

If he desires faith, then why tell us we need to 'prove all things' in 1 Thessalonians 5:21?

Know this also - Jehovah your God is scatterbrained and more than a little schizo.

43

Why is god hiding?

by AK - Jeff in

what god could have done to show himself:.

he could have left incontrovertible evidence of his existence.he could have made it impossibly evident that mankind has been here only 6000 years, not the 200,000 give or take, that fossil evidence supports.

he could have provided evidence through jesus to millions of non-believers, instead of focusing on a small band of fanatical followers eager to point to 'the messiah'.he could at any time, being the ultimate of beings, just simply show himself in the sky, speak to millions instead of to the lonely occasional deluded sheepherder in the desert, or provide miracles to millions of us as observers - part the ocean, cure cancer and announce it from heaven in a clear unmistakable voice, or instantaneously stop starvation and plague in it's tracks.

superpunk

I sense a dialogue about what constitutes "proof" in the spiritual realm coming on.

Know this, Jehovah your God desires FAITH, without it, it is impossible to please him well. Hebrews 11:6 ya'll. ;-)

22

Best Beach Vacations

by beksbks in

where?

why?.

superpunk

Someone mentioned Coronado....

I've been to alot of beaches - I love the ocean, and none, anywhere have made me feel like I did when I was in San Diego. I want to move there so badly.

39

Just got a job offer!

by daniel-p in

jw
friends

i am one happy clam!

just got a job offer at almost 10k over my current salary plus another 10k after 2 years.

it's with an agency that would afford me many more professional opportunities, transferability, and promotion potential, and, most importantly, provides excellent benefits and job security and comes at a time when i need an offer since my current company is closing soon.. also, one of the more awesome things is that this job is under the dod, so i can stick it to the watchtower!.

superpunk

What's that?

Smells like Jehoover's blessing!

39

Do you desire eternal life?

by sacolton in

jw
friends

superpunk

No being wants to stop living.

Animals will gnaw their leg off to escape, and save their lives.

It's just a mistake to think that desire was put there supernatural-ly. We want to sustain our lives as long as we possibly can.

43

Why is god hiding?

by AK - Jeff in

what god could have done to show himself:.

he could have left incontrovertible evidence of his existence.he could have made it impossibly evident that mankind has been here only 6000 years, not the 200,000 give or take, that fossil evidence supports.

he could have provided evidence through jesus to millions of non-believers, instead of focusing on a small band of fanatical followers eager to point to 'the messiah'.he could at any time, being the ultimate of beings, just simply show himself in the sky, speak to millions instead of to the lonely occasional deluded sheepherder in the desert, or provide miracles to millions of us as observers - part the ocean, cure cancer and announce it from heaven in a clear unmistakable voice, or instantaneously stop starvation and plague in it's tracks.

superpunk

IIRC, God wants to prove to humans that they cannot live in a world where earthquakes occur, while exercising the free will that he gave them.

52

"When armageddon happens, I want to be able to SEE the people dying"

by jambon1 in

jw
friends

said to myself & others by a jw elder.. i always recall this as a sort of .

when this elder was pressed on the matter, he replied that it was because of all the years of laughing & sneering & mocking that he had put up with, quoting the scripture that goes along the lines of 'where is this promised presence of his'.. i realise now that this person is not loving.

and yet, i would hear similar sentiments from others such as 'just wait until the end' or 'i wonder if they'll be saying that when jesus comes with his big sword'.. even as a jw pioneer, the thought of such a thing happening to people repulsed me.

superpunk

I've just felt my baby move in my wifes stomach today.

A hearty congratulations. :)

52

"When armageddon happens, I want to be able to SEE the people dying"

by jambon1 in

jw
friends

said to myself & others by a jw elder.. i always recall this as a sort of .

when this elder was pressed on the matter, he replied that it was because of all the years of laughing & sneering & mocking that he had put up with, quoting the scripture that goes along the lines of 'where is this promised presence of his'.. i realise now that this person is not loving.

and yet, i would hear similar sentiments from others such as 'just wait until the end' or 'i wonder if they'll be saying that when jesus comes with his big sword'.. even as a jw pioneer, the thought of such a thing happening to people repulsed me.

superpunk

No, you may not.

That's unfortunate. I was hoping you'd be consistent in your viewpoint.

Who in this world has enslaved or oppressed JW's?

They believe that almost everyone has - at least the oppressed bit.