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  One of my nephews passed away this evening

  by mimimimi in

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  he was 23 years old.

  he was depressed and took his own life.

  no one had any idea he was contemplating something like this.

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  donuthole

  Thanks for sharing. But.. I am shocked to learn about A, B and C classifications. Is that a WTS secret arrangment for grouping certain JWs? Just curious.

  Officially, no. But there is a caste system of sorts which is not actively acknowledged. The tier A would be the elders, pioneers, the "in-crowd", the folks that are held in high regard, the kinds of people you're going to see standing on the stage at an assembly, and the kids of people that are going to be at every social gathering. Tier B is kind of the middle of the road. They aren't necessarily looked down upon - they are just there - sitting in chairs and turning in field service hours. Tier C is at the bottom, the outcasts, the ones that don't fit in, the widows and orphans, single moms, inactive ones, the awkward, the ill-dressed - the kind of people Jesus would be hanging out with - but the kind of people that are neglected by the rest of the congreagtion.
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  Wikileaks - why haven't I seen new elder book there yet?

  by EndofMysteries in

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  that would be a great site to have the elder books, has anyone tried getting them to accept it?

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  donuthole

  WikiLeaks has moved their resources to releasing bigger releases such as the diplomatic cables.
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  Please explain the deal with Smurfs

  by not bitter in

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  i keep reading comments about smurfs but i don't understand.

  please can someone explain..

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  donuthole

  JW urban legends based on the idea that smurfs were demonic -

  One followed the youtube video about the smurf jumping up during a meeting and saying "eff this .."

  Another had smurfs coming alive and leaping off wallpaper or curtains and tormenting a young girl.

  In the aftermath some JW's tried to burn smurfs which allegedly would not burn.

  As a child during this time period I was absolutely terrified of smurfs and got rid of them.
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  A Christmas Miracle! [comic]

  by donuthole in

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  Is Disfellowshipping Scriptural?

  by pirata in

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  continuing the off-topic discussion in: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/202959/1/another-question-about-the-governing-body.

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  donuthole

  Here is another Bible text that could be mentioned -

  (2 Thessalonians 3:14-15) 14 But if anyone is not obedient to our word through this letter, keep this one marked, stop associating with him, that he may become ashamed. 15 And yet do not be considering him as an enemy, but continue admonishing him as a brother .

  If I remember correctly what is here translated as "stop associating with him" is identical to what is used in Corinthians where the NWT renders "quit mixing in the company of". Is a total and complete cutting off and with no communication whatsoever as practiced by JW's envisioned by the writer?
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  Is Disfellowshipping Scriptural?

  by pirata in

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  continuing the off-topic discussion in: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/202959/1/another-question-about-the-governing-body.

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  donuthole

  Disfellowshipping as practiced by Jehovah's Witnesses is not "scriptural". They have built a policy on top of a few disparate Bible verses and claim the practice is Biblical. In the Bible you do not see judicial hearings - what you do see is an example where an individual, Paul, unilaterally expels a man from the Corinthian congregation against the wishes of a congregation without a JW-style judicial process. (And if we are talking about the same man in 2 Cor, Paul quickly retracts from his position and tells them to accept the man back.) In the Bible you don't see investigation meetings, written appeals, private reproof, reinstatement requiring meeting attendance for a set period of time, restrictions on commenting at meetings, and other practices of Jehovah's Witnesses. The Witnesses list of disfellowshipping offenses is not mirrored in the Bible and is cobbled together from a variety of texts, however some, such as smoking, have a tedious Biblical basis, if at all. In the books of Acts the prohibition is given against blood and fornication. As a Witness if you commit fornication you will go through the judicial process which can lead to disfellowshipping, on the other hand freely accepting a blood transfusion will get you disassociated by actions. The Bible does not allow that some offenses can get you disassociated by actions, a legal term completely invented by the Witnesses.
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  The Combating Online Infringement and Counterfeits Act passed last Thursday. A couple sites already feeling the heat.

  by miseryloveselders in

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  http://www.ballerstatus.com/2010/11/26/congress-passes-web-censorship-bill-two-hip-hop-sites-shut-down/.

  i remember vaguely hearing about this bill, but i forgot about it.

  apparently it passed, and a couple hip hop forums i've frequented in times past already got raided due to illegal file sharing.

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  donuthole

  The web censorship bill (COICA) merely was passed by the Senate judiciary committee. It hasn't gone to a full congregational vote nor has it been signed into law by the president. It isn't a law yet.

  I don't know what legal authority the Immigration & Customs Enforcement devision of the Department of Homeland Security is working under in the matter. Was there a warrant? A court order? Why is Homeland Security spending time and resources targeting file sharing websites? Why are the biggest file-sharing web-sites still online? Maybe DHS simply testing their limits are on small-fry web sites before moving up to bigger targets like Wikileaks.

  Lots of questions about this one.

  Update: I did some research and it seems that the DHS is operating under the DMCA on this one. The question is raised though, if the DHS already has censorship authority under the DMCA why is COICA even needed?
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  Why don't JWs celebrate Thanksgiving

  by levicolemagic in

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  my first post here.

  i wrote this little article about why jws don't celebrate thanksgiving.. check it out here: http://hubpages.com/hub/what-jehovahs-witnesses-believe.

  let me know what you think of it.. god bless.

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  donuthole

  We usually had our turkey dinner "cause it's on sale". Similar to how we went over to the friends house for gathering on Christmas Eve and New Years Eve, "cause we have the day off from work the next day."
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  Christians?

  by phoebed in

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  are any christians on this forum???.

  if you found christ can you please let me know, so i can chat a little?

  you guys seem to be all kinds of stuff here... no judgments now!

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  donuthole

  I follow Jesus. "Found" him at a Kingdom Hall strangely enough and the rest is history. Feel free to PM me.
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  Would You Let Them Touch Your Junk?

  by minimus in

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  well?.

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  donuthole

  I believe such an intrusive search is invasive and would not submit nor would I submit to a body scan with unknown radiation effects. More than that I would never subject my daughter to such an invasion of privacy and dignity.