Here is a decent write up that includes a download of an old Watchtower:
donuthole
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A question about the change from qualities to works
by alfredjones100 ini remember reading a comment here that bro.
russell emphasized the developement of christian qualities, where are bro rutherford changed the focus to christan works.
the question i have is, is this change dirrectly commented on in print or is it seen in more anecdotal evidence?.
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The GB gives awakened JW's 2 choices.
by BU2B inthis is classic damned if you do, damned if you dont.. the choice is.
1. be a hypocrite.
i just came to the realization that those of us still in and who know ttatt have only 2choices.
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donuthole
That was the decision I faced. I tried to telling that to an elder when I was going through my apostacy judicial investigation. He wanted to know if I could continue to go out in service and study "the truth" with householders. I told him that I couldn't in good conscious teach someone something as truth that I didn't believe in, or knew to be false. The same went for giving talks and reading the publications at the meetings. Of course, a JW isn't allowed to have variant ideas that they could simply keep to themselves while "waiting on Jehovah". They must actively engage in spreadying untruths.
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The JW.ORG craziness has begun....
by cultBgone ini guess it was bound to happen..... just saw a facebook post where the user updated their profile picture to be the blue square jw.org logo.. .
don't know whether to laugh or cry.
worship the borg, you people!!!
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donuthole
The irony of the idolotary is breathtaking. At least the cross is supposed to be a symbol for Christ. This is a logo for an organization.
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Help. I need to know how Hebrews 12:6 reads in the old NWT.
by donuthole ini'm working on a rewrite of happiness: how to find it.
the book is set in the 1990's so i need quotes from the old new world translation.
can anyone help me out with hebrews 12:6?
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donuthole
Thank you.
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Help. I need to know how Hebrews 12:6 reads in the old NWT.
by donuthole ini'm working on a rewrite of happiness: how to find it.
the book is set in the 1990's so i need quotes from the old new world translation.
can anyone help me out with hebrews 12:6?
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donuthole
I'm working on a rewrite of Happiness: How to Find it. The book is set in the 1990's so I need quotes from the old New World Translation. Only the new one is available on JW.ORG.
Can anyone help me out with Hebrews 12:6? (Apologies for anyone who has a bad memory of hearing those callow words in a judicial hearing.) -
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Something Big is Coming...
by notsurewheretogo inthe annual meeting of the governing body of jehovah's witnesses will be in october 2014.. .. in november 2013, just after the last one they published this now famous statement in the 15th of november 2013 watchtower page 16 paragraph 17 says:.
"at that time, the lifesaving direction that we receive from jehovahs organization may not appear practical from a human standpoint.
all of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive, whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not.".
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donuthole
My vote is a field service modification, with downsizing, toward eliminating the door-to-door work. The liability of sending a "large army" of publishers out door-to-door is not worth the return without literature sales.
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New Light from 2014 Convenetion re Dancing
by Haupi33 innow it's okay for the rank & file to dance and do the twist before the program starts.
check out the video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzaw1xe8q70.
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donuthole
Sorry guys. I'm going back. I hate missing out on the fun.
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How Rutherford used Bible Prophecy to Legitimize the Watchtower
by donuthole inwhen rutheford took over the presidency he was faced with several schisms.
one on side you had bible students loyal to charles russell and his teachings.
on the judge's side, you had those bible students loyal to the watchtower and rutherrford as president.
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donuthole
When Rutheford took over the presidency he was faced with several schisms. One on side you had Bible Students loyal to Charles Russell and his teachings. On the Judge's side, you had those Bible Students loyal to the Watchtower and Rutherrford as president. Both Bible Students groups claimed the Trtuh and God's backing and were in many ways indistinguishable.
I believe this was a motivating factor which lead to the Judge rebranding the religion as "Jehovah's Witnesses". It wasn't a mere name change, but a huge doctrinal change. In doing so Rutherford began to apply Bible prophecy that was previously understood as applying to Israel, to the group of Watchtower loyal Bible Students.
The book "The Finished Mystery" was the first released under Rutherford and you can already begin to see this method at work. In the book the 1600 furlongs of Revelation 14:20 are understood to mean the distance from Scranton, Pennsylvania (where the book was written) to the Watchtower Headquarters in Brooklyn. Here the activities of the Society and Watchtower Headquarters are written into Bible prophecy, albeit in a crude, fanciful manner. ("The Finished Mystery" predates most of the schisms and is more generous to Charles Russell then later books would be. )Rutherford's later books followed this tactic of applying Bible prophecy to the Watchtower. For example the "seven bowls of anger" and "seven trumpets" from Revelation are applied to Watchtower tracts and conventions in the early 1900's. Similarly organization changes in the early 1940's were understood to be the fulfillment of Daniel's prophecy about the Holy Place (Watchtower HQ) being restored. Here By applying prophecy to the Watchtower, he was making his religion the only truth amid various Bible student groups operating in that time. Only the Judge's Watchtower had the backing of God and was being used to fulfill Bible prophecy.
However as this time period fades into history, these teaching become less impactful. Even 1914, the pivotal date used by the Watchtower, is past its sell by. The Organization is not afraid to adjust its understanding of prophecy, but the task of unchaining it from Rutheford's troubled reign might not be an easy one. It would require huge adjustments to their understanding of Bible books like Revelation and Daniel.
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Local Kingdom Hall Speakers To Be Replaced By Governing Body Video Feeds.
by donuthole inso we've seen as the current gb is getting more facetime in an effort to reach the hearts and minds of the rank and file.
this took a leap with video feeds at an open annual meeting.
the international conventions are taking this a step farther.. do you think that local speakers at kingdom halls could ever be replaced by headquarter approved video feeds?.
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donuthole
So we've seen as the current GB is getting more facetime in an effort to reach the hearts and minds of the rank and file. This took a leap with video feeds at an open annual meeting. The International Conventions are taking this a step farther.
Do you think that local speakers at Kingdom Halls could ever be replaced by headquarter approved video feeds?
It would be a big boost for "unity", get the GB and other Bethel stars out there more, and keep local leadership from going off script.Yay or nay? Let's discuss.
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JW.ORG to be the fulfillment of Matthew 24:14
by donuthole inthe organization is shifting away from printed literature in favor of their new jw.org website.
the website contains content that is not printed in literature.
kiosks, trolleys, and storefronts are being used to showcase the website.
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donuthole
Blondie in my original post I suggested " The door-to-door work may continue in developing lands with little Internet pentetration and viable external growth."
Unrelated Blondie's comment, I don't think the Watchtower is stupid. They have to have reached the same conclusion that apostates have pointed out for years. The door-to-door work in places like the US is highly ineffective and a waste of time. It is an archaic legacy from a time when it actually brought in money (and recruits) through literature sales. I don't personally buy into the idea that it is kept around just to be busy work for the rank and file. As the JW.ORG transformation continues I'm not going to be shocked to see many decisions and changes focused on the bottom line.
My post was tinfoil so take it or leave it.