thinking about the article a year ago, 6/15/09 watchtower page 23 para 15.. if you are put on the spot, or even in casual conversation if asked if the f&ds, anointed, gov.
body ect.
make mistakes, have holy spirit, are spirit directed ect.
I was asked that very question several years ago, and my response was as the best that i can remember, "god used an ass didn't he? Well then he could use anything else even a bunch of asses don't ya think?"
I really don't they understood what it was i was saying, one was a gardner, the other had a classic window washing business. They actually agreed with me.
thinking about the article a year ago, 6/15/09 watchtower page 23 para 15.. if you are put on the spot, or even in casual conversation if asked if the f&ds, anointed, gov.
body ect.
make mistakes, have holy spirit, are spirit directed ect.
I was asked that very question several years ago, and my response was as the best that i can remember, "god used an ass didn't he? Well then he could use anything else even a bunch of asses don't ya think?"
I really don't they understood what it was i was saying, one was a gardner, the other had a classic window washing business. They actually agreed with me.
....watch the video, what if we were to substitute the word islam (in the video) for watchtowerism.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcbptzalqfy.
the three things i know about islam, is violence, violence, and more violence. Islam like watchtowerismm is pure unadulturated bs.
does a bear shit in the woods?...
i`ve never really cared about that question until today... bears do shit in the woods.....more importantly on my lawn... .
the garbage can took a beating.....it`s bear proof but has some really cool bear scars now... he dragged his huge bear bum up my cherry tree.....busted branch's everywhere... .
Hopefully you bagged some and pls to deposit it upon the steps of the nearest KH as they will realize the yes bears do do it in the woods, yards and doorsteps. I mean they deserve to receive the best Bear Shit going and it is in your yard, so put some at the door of the hall.
my wife and i was talking about one of the talks that they had concerning marriage and how each spouse is suppose to put the other spouse first and that as long as both spouses did this, it would work out for the greater good of the marriage.. i agreed but added a point in that sometimes, either because of human frailties on the part of your spouse or some other reason, you spouse may not be fulfilling all your needs and sometimes you will just need to take care of your own needs.
i tried to emphasize that this did not mean placing your needs ahead of the marriage or family or even your spouses, but simply sometimes we need to take care of our own needs and not always expect the spouse to do it for us.. she did not like the 'tone' and 'attitude' of my remark and when i brought up an example, it really set her off.. the example had to do with birthdays.
since my wife is a witness, obviously she will not be throwing me a party, at least don't expect her too.
shifting the burden is a pass time of my spouse also, can't ask a question w/o it being implied that if only I would study more, WT Pubs, and attend meetings that i would be enlightened. told the spouse that doing those things is what awokened me to the nonsense perpetuated by te WTBTS. Amd if real reasoning and critical thinking were employed that many many more would leave the mentally enclosed corrall of the WTBTS.
my wife and i was talking about one of the talks that they had concerning marriage and how each spouse is suppose to put the other spouse first and that as long as both spouses did this, it would work out for the greater good of the marriage.. i agreed but added a point in that sometimes, either because of human frailties on the part of your spouse or some other reason, you spouse may not be fulfilling all your needs and sometimes you will just need to take care of your own needs.
i tried to emphasize that this did not mean placing your needs ahead of the marriage or family or even your spouses, but simply sometimes we need to take care of our own needs and not always expect the spouse to do it for us.. she did not like the 'tone' and 'attitude' of my remark and when i brought up an example, it really set her off.. the example had to do with birthdays.
since my wife is a witness, obviously she will not be throwing me a party, at least don't expect her too.
shifting the burden is a pass time of my spouse also, can't ask a question w/o it being implied that if only I would study more, WT Pubs, and attend meetings that i would be enlightened. told the spouse that doing those things is what awokened me to the nonsense perpetuated by te WTBTS. Amd if real reasoning and critical thinking were employed that many many more would leave the mentally enclosed corrall of the WTBTS.
i am asking you for your opinion/advice on questions or ideas to introduce to my friend to make him start doubting the wbts.
no doubt when he sees my new goatee it will be a bit unnerving for him, maybe i could use this as a starting point.
perhaps you have things that have worked others?
How about suggesting to them that you all do research on just what the society was teaching prior to and duringt the 1914-1919 era, I'm sure that if the have half a brain they will be somewhat stunned over what they find.
i'm not sure how much was this the custom in other countries, but here during the conventions local jws could offer their homes to those with special needs / who can't afford a hotel, etc.. many years ago as newly wedded couple we decided to offer our house.
we got assigned a middle-aged (around 45) italian guy, who was a bible-study.
fortunately he spoke some of our language, so we understood each other.
We offered ours at one time, and we had an older lady, she was very very nice and even stayed on with us for a month after the convention going out in service and was such a help around the house, cooked, ironed constantly cleaned, she was a pleasure to have, we had her back the following year and she had another sister with her from Oregon who happened to be in the area when the Dc was on, She too was a pleasure to have around, they wanted to do all the household chores but we said no, the children have their assigned jobs and we want them to still do it. They were excellent cooks and again both stayed for about 6 weeks after the Dc. We kept in touch with them, and still see the lady from oregon once in awhile.
Sou our experience was good with that arrangement.
i was told of one incident, where a pioneer said that she had trouble with one householders husband, because he was hiding the literature and did not want his wife to study with the jw's so she incouraged the householder to study in secrecy.. .
I have never done that, but i have left notes (typed) in Watchtowers left at not at homes, telling them that after reading it to please go on line and check out "ALL" the informatin on Jdubs there before considering having any Bible discussions or studies with them. I only did this when working alone, which when was going out in service and not having a partner. Now i get the national average of most apostates, zero, zip, nada, the big nothing.
i'm in aussie now - but i remember a little while ago the gov in nz changed the rules for non-profits.
i saw a programme on tv the other night that said the scientologists reported income dropped from multi-millions to about 300k after the change.. i wondered if anyone knew what happened to the watch tower society's reported income after the law change?.
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We here in the U.S. definitely need our non-profit laws redone, cults like the WTBTS should be paying their fair share of taxes just like the rest of us. They have been nothing but parasites on the American Tax Payer. In fact, I believe all relgions should unless, there is verifiable proof of exceptional charity work for all in the community. And the WTBTS doesn't do charity work for the community in general and very selective charity work for dubs effected by Katrina like devastations.
I say tax em all, property, income and any other tax that can be foisted off on them. It's about time they quit being parasites and pay up like everyone else.
