Jesus could have been referring to an actual flood albeit not total world flood, or like. someting along the lines of children of the whole world wait on Santa Claus to arrive just as we wait for the WTBTS to be truthful. he could have been refering to some myth that a lot of people knew about and just referenced it, that doesn't in itself make it true it just makes it something people know about.
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What Jesus Said About the Flood
by Franklin Massey ini was reading this debate this morning (decent arguments on both sides and an overall respectful demeanor):.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/205158/1/look-it-wasnt-a-global-flood.
much of the discussion revolved around other mentions of the flood in the bible.
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Yes, Brother Soldier77, I see you haven't turned in your time for the month...
by Soldier77 inso i get the call a couple weeks ago from the secretary concerning my time for the month.
he called on a thursday and said that he is looking forward to seeing me at the meeting tonight and to make sure i turn in my time for the month.
" all the while thinking, yeah right, i'm not even going to be at the meeting let alone turn in my fake time!.
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ssn587
isn't it wonderful how tied they are to FS time. I mean hey what have u been doing with your time? a comment i head awhile back from a co was that is was just about sinful to not be out in FS and doing the D-to-D ministry. Yeah right! If anything is a sin connected to the ministry it's the going out and deceiving folks in the first place.
Well that's the society 100+ years of uninterrupted time wasting at the door to door nonsense unimpeded by the advances in communication technology. They are living in the last days alright, the last days of communication technology from long long ago.
have a good one everyone.
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What is a false prophet?
by Spade inif jehovahs witnesses are false-prophets, who can we look to as a prophet(s)?.
http://www.watchtower21.org/2011/01/what-is-false-prophet.html.
a false prophet as described in the old testament under the mosaic law covenant:.
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ssn587
The are the only channel Jehovah uses to talk to us today, by saying that, they are regarding themselves as prophets. and they are false prophets as can be seen by all their fase predictions. 1914, 1918, 1925, 1940s, 1975 etal. Just to name a few. You can't have it both ways, The R&F are to regard the words coming from Crooklyn as coming from God. So I don't know who you are trying to convince but they the WTBTS are and have been and wil continue to be false prophets.
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brotherdan, that at matthew 28: 19,20 is not a command to us, it was given to the eleven as per vs 16, not all people who believed in the christ. This is a misconception in my view pushed by the WTBTS to get you out in service/sales of their magazines. You donate for them, and if someone donates for getting one they want that $$$ too. It's all a marketing scheme for the WTBTS. Not a commandment to all men.
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How would you answer: Archeology
by sabastious ini have noticed that the professional archeology community, in my opinion, likes to jump the gun.
they seem to fill in a lot of historical holes with little actual evidence.
not to say they don't fill an important role on this planet.. what is your general view of archeology and why?.
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archeology theories are just that, they will theorize, and will admittedly most of the time if not all say so. The WT however, puts their theories out as fact and one has to believe them or else. When it is brought to their attention that they have erred, they accuse the person who brings it to their attention.
New lite is their way of saying oops, but without of course saying so, everything change or alteration is of course new lite. and old lite isn't looked at as being false, it's just old lite.
they the Wt are great practioners of self delusion and denial.
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Elders and liability issues
by wannabefree inelder, have you contacted the society's legal department and asked if they would recommend you carry a personal liability insurance policy?.
it would be interesting to hear their response.
would they say yes, no, or that is for you to decide.. the society has been sued and has paid out big settlements.
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the only way the society would get involved if an elder were being sued, is if they themselves were mentioned in the suit and were also being sued, my guess is they couldn't distance themselves fast or far enough. The elders and as a by product, the elderettes would be left hanging in the wind so to speak.
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I asked my best friend how the GB makes its decsions last night...
by dontplaceliterature inmy best friend does not know about my recent mental defection from the watchtower, but i am having trouble keeping my feelings from him completely....so, last night, i asked my him if he thought the governing body was always in 100% agreement about every policy/doctrine decision they make.
" i asked him how he thought they went about making those decisions and he said that, "they probably discuss it as a group, research it, read the bible together, and discuss it some more until they come to a conclusion...just like a boe would when deciding a judicial matter.
" i said: "don't you think that if they were jehovah's 'mouth-piece' and they are indeed being guided by jesus christ and holy spirit, that there would be no doubt about what the right course of action is?
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DPL they are just men and nothing more, to think otherwise is silly at best. Yet, many still think they speak for god, but just think about 2 Thess. 2:
who is it that sets in the temple in the place of god and thinks they speak for him. that is one I will going over with my family soon.
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The uncomfortable truth about mind control: Is free will simply a myth?
by baltar447 inhttp://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/features/the-uncomfortable-truth-about-mind-control-is-free-will-simply-a-myth-2177014.html .
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ssn587
I totally with AA analysis, and their is little to no free will in the WTBTS KM's.
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anyone know where I can get a copy?
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Will I ever break free from primitive JW thinking?
by Mad Sweeney ini had an extremely disturbing thought this morning.
here's the story (or "experience" for jw readers):.
all week i had been waiting for pay day.
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ssn587
it's a Pavlovian response to a stimulation. We have been conditioned to think like that, just as today, anything bad happening gets most dubs all sweaty and excited thinking the end is nigh. But alsas as time passes they realize it's just around the corner again. (ha ha) They never will reach the corner unless it be the corner of their lives. And as they lay there dying they wonder WTF happened to the end, this isn't what I wanted to happen.