So my advice is ask the neighbor questions, lead them to information they will need (i.e. jwfacts.com) to really get informed about just what the witness really were about and what would be expected of her in the event she became one. Let her/them know it isn't jdubs knocking on the door that indicates whether or not they will receive everlastig life, nor is taking their magazines. Tell her it isn't them who separate the good people from the bad people and refer her to Matthew 13:49 and show her it's angels not people that do that.
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My neighbor is a return visit. Should I say something?
by Zoos ini stayed home sick from work the other day and noticed a car group pull up to my neighbor's house.
she's a stay-at-home mom.
i decided it was time to retrieve something from my truck to see if i could recognize the visiting sisters.
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My neighbor is a return visit. Should I say something?
by Zoos ini stayed home sick from work the other day and noticed a car group pull up to my neighbor's house.
she's a stay-at-home mom.
i decided it was time to retrieve something from my truck to see if i could recognize the visiting sisters.
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ssn587
In 1998 my neighbor and wife were being visited by jdubs, in fact the wife's mother and step farther were jdubs. He husband asked me about jdubs as he knew I presently was one. Over time, I enlightened him as to the true purpose of their visits (recruitment) rather than a bible study. Told him when they come again insist on just the Bible, I let him know how they would start controlling his and his families lives. How he would slowly be sucked into the organization. I showed him the magazines (older ones) and how their doctrines change, and how they had caused the needless deaths of many through their adherence to doctrinal issues. I then told him what would happen after he was baptized and disagreed with them that they would insist that he believe them, the governing body etc. After several months of me and him getting together going over the Bible their supposed 1914 date, desgtruction of Jerusalem in 607 vs 587/6 BC. He had begun doing some research on his own and decided that he and his family were not going to have anything to do with them. When his mother in law visited almost 8 monhts later, his wife told her they no longer study and it was because of the information I had given them about the witnesses.
Her mother spoke with her husband and they decided that he should call Bethel and complain about me, I never heard anything from the local congregation about it one way or the other. He still thanks me to this day when we see each other for giving him the needed information he used to ask them questions which put them on the spot. He was able to catch them in many lies about what the witnesses did and didn't believe. They wanted him to question his church but they sure didn't like it when he asked them pointed questions. Thankfully I was able to help him to have nothing to do with them. His wife was a little pissed at me as I am sure she heard talk from her mom over the issue and how good the witnesses were. The upshot of it was that either he nor his wife had anything to do with them after deciding they lied to him on many occasions.
I felt heartened over the experience and glad I was able to give them info so that they wouldn't be sucked in to the quagmire of the witnesses.
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How Have You Changed Much In Attitude & Actions Since Leaving The Witnesses?
by minimus init takes time to stop thinking or reacting like a jehovah's witness.. are you still judgmental?
a know it all?
a person that listens more with their heart instead of their head---like jehovah's witnesses ???.
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ssn587
One big change I longer believe much of anything unless i research and prove it to myself. was always one to do research and that led me out thankfully.
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GOVERNING BODY: Thanks for nothing, you rat bastards!
by Terry inas a jehovah's witness:.
two things finally struck me:.
for now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face; now i know in part, but then i will know fully just as i also have been fully known.. _______________________.
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ssn587
Your absolutely right Terry.
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inactive ones going back...
by monis1 ini have quite a big group of friends who were all in the cong together when we were teens.
about 75% of them stopped going or were df'd right after high school.
it is a varied group; a couple are staunch apostates, some dont care one way or another, and another handfull are fully "worldly", but still believe it is the truth.
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ssn587
37months and counting since i have been to a hall, NEVER going back to that nonsense.
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Sleep Aid Recommendations
by LV101 inin addition to the recent thread, "how to shut your mind down .
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ssn587
I always found a good round of sex with the spouse was a good sleep aid afterward.
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"Only if you get a court order." wink, wink
by rebel8 inrecently had a discussion with a surgeon who said jw parents "usually" (her word, not mine) privately say they will take blood if the provider gets a court order.. yet another person, with no connection to dubs and no motive to make this up, saying this same thing.
interesting.. i'm surprised the thought police have not come out with an article saying jehoopla reads the hearts and judges as bloodguilty those who are relieved when forced to take blood..
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Jdubs arent allowed to thnk for themxelves, so they dont
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Any Suggestions on what to say if elders ask why you stopped going in FS?
by BU2B ini was curious what might be some good things to say if i am questioned by the elduurs about my decline in fs.
anything too honest may get me a jc (although that would be for the best in the end..) the co visit is this week so they may be getting more agressive than usual.
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When i had been asked that question. I told them the truth i told bthem it was a waste of time and didnt pro Kruse anything worthy of all the time spent in FS. They were a bitshocked and started in about the gb "encouraging" our participation. So i told nthem i thinkk its a waste of time and i wont bedoing nit end of subject. Then told them they have to go because i. Amgoingto the range. Never heard another ,word aboutit from them.
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Bart Ehrmann's New Book - Easter Release-Jesus to God
by Band on the Run ini was looking for new books to read at b&n.
somehow i saw there were pre-orders for ehrman's latest book dealling with the transformation of the historical jesus into god, a concept foreign to judaism to say the least..
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Remember. its all mythology
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Health care law & JWs
by L3G inin the usa the affordable care act/obamacare has kicked in and as of the end of this month, those without paying for health care coverage thru an insurance company, unless they're somehow exempt, will have to pay an increasingly steep annual fine for not buying into the system.. so how will this affect those jws in full-time service?
is the org paying the premiums of bethelites, traveling overseers, spec.
pioneers, etc.?
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ssn587
MYy guess is that they will guilt congregations into giving up "their fair share"like they do for every thing else.