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  V And Watchtower Comments

  by KingDavidwasframed in

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  has any one heard what happened or if there will be more?.

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  V just up and disappeared.

  Could there have been some nefarious goings on?

  Does anyone know if he's ok?
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  For how long can they massage the figures ?

  by leo999 in

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  so looking at the worldwide report , the baptisms are down , many countries are 0 growth ,publishers, hours , and studies up because of changes in reporting methods .

  but just how long can the propping up of numbers happen for , before the real downward slide starts ?

  a year or two tops , which will be real close to 2014 .

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  Hey Leo, and welcome to JWN btw.

  I think the numbers are important to the JW psyche.

  If they go down dramatically it will motivate a questioning attitude and more will fall out.

  There will be articles trying to explain away the 'sifting'.

  They'll concentrate on countries where the growth is still going on and put pressure on the R&F left in developed countries to contribute more money.

  Those are some things I see them doing in order to stay afloat. But the WT has a high sustainability rate despite all its failed prophecies.

  The circle of their rounding up the wagons is getting tighter and tighter maybe it will it end up suffocating them.
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  JW responses on Facebook rules from CO

  by purplesofa in

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  i know there has been threads on jw's using facebook, i thought i would post some responses from jw community i got in an email.. .

  this was presented for discussion.. .

  a co in our area (rochester) said that there would be no one being.

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  I love my facebook and I ain't gettion off it!

  And the ingrates from NY can go lick cattails!
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  A question about marriage in the organization

  by dgp in

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  this post was motivated by another thread, namely.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/188552/1/onereason-for-a-gentleman-fader-to-stay-reasonably-associated.

  this thread makes reference to the fact that a 40 something brother has a real chance with twenty-something and less sisters.

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  Some of the posts on this thread smart of age discrimination.

  I see nothing wrong for a man and woman, May-to-December or

  December-to-May for that matter, to get hitched if they are

  attracted to each other. There are lots of men in their 40's

  and 50's that I think would make any gal blush if they were

  asked out and were JWs. There are some who would look

  down on these relationships only because of some strange

  thought that marriage mates should be close in age. Should

  they also be of the same race? Should they also be of the

  same ethnic background? Give me a break!

  If there's love in a marriage let them be happy

  together and damn the torpedo headed nay-sayers!

  
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  Don't ask questions

  by linp24 in

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  several weeks ago, a witness poster said that the rank and file at his cong were told by elders not to ask questions.

  i may have misunderstood what the poster was saying.

  has anyone on the forum heard anything like this?

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  This is something that did happen in a bookstudy I attended for years, my father was

  the M.S. assistant back then.

  There was this bookstudy conductor who was in his late 30's early 40's, and was a

  school teacher by trade. He did encourage questions from the friends at the bookstudy.

  And he'd have the other people in the bookstudy take shots at answering the extra

  question presented, when it was something totally unrelated to the paragraphs, just

  something that came to mind, he'd write down the question and bring it up at the end

  of the study for the friends to take shots at answering. People loved the study, they'd

  show up from other bookstudies, there were only 16 regularly assigned and the number

  went to 27, 32 depending on the week.

  Sometimes this conductor would say aloud he didn't quite understand something himself and had

  to do extra research--he was very fond of bringing printouts from older publications that touched

  on the subject. I remember going through the 2 volume Isaiah series, and Daniel, and then

  too the Revelation book, the newly revised edition. He had a sister who only had an old copy

  and didn't want to use a new one read the part that had been changed fro the original reading

  for comparison.

  I think he got in trouble with the neo-Nazi Service Overseer who came over to inspect the

  bookstudy. He got demoted as Bookstudy Conductor/Overseer and another brother was

  brought in who was a born-in, son of the oldest pioneer alive in the region, a person who

  just read the questions from the book and wouldn't even acknowledge you gave an answer,

  just called on the next hand. Everything was so boring after that. At first people in the bookstudy

  would still ask the older elder questions about the study material, but he started referring us

  to the new conductor. It wasn't the same bookstudy anymore, and the number went to about

  11 to 14 most weeks.
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  SAINTS WIN SuperBowl XLIV (44) Yaaaaaaayyyyyyy!

  by cattails in

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  saints win.

  saints win.

  saints win.

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  SAINTS WIN

  SAINTS WIN

  SAINTS WIN

  Yaaaaaayyyyyyy!

  They were daring and on the ball the whole way there!

  Yaaaaaaayyyyy!
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  Mill Hill Disfellowshippings

  by BorgHater in

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  a few months ago there was a thread about a couple of elders at the mill hill bethel being disfellowshipped because they disagreed with some wt doctrine (i can't recall exactly what it was) and that several other betheliteswere under 'investigation'.

  i haven't heard anything since, does anyone know anything more about this?.

  borghater xx.

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  Hey Paulapollos, I much appreciate your time and your information. I'd like to ask about statements you made in an earlier post:

  2 elders and the servant involved in what the Society laughably refers to as "confidential" work.

  Could you give us some examples of this "confidential" work you and the others were involved in, like a specific reference, please don't misunderstand my intentions I'm not questioning the work, just have no idea what's involved from further descriptions and details will perhaps give me an "aha" moment on this point. Thanks.

  All 4 were disfellowshipped for apostasy - the MS went first, then the three elders in due time, one of whom was a partaker of the emblems.

  Could you tell us if the work involved lead this brother to partake of the emblems. Like for example did the things he learned from reading the Scriptures develop in him the want to partake. Sort of like what Ed Dunlap realized (which I read in CoC). Of course if you aren't the brother involved you may only be able to give an approximation of what he had in mind if anything. But you must have spoken with one another, if not before the DF'ing then perhaps afterwards.

  I'd love to be able to hear more from you and the other brothers involved if you can encourage them to take part in this forum.

  Again, I much appreciate your time and your willingness to share your thoughts and experience here.

  --Cattails
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  Mill Hill Disfellowshippings

  by BorgHater in

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  a few months ago there was a thread about a couple of elders at the mill hill bethel being disfellowshipped because they disagreed with some wt doctrine (i can't recall exactly what it was) and that several other betheliteswere under 'investigation'.

  i haven't heard anything since, does anyone know anything more about this?.

  borghater xx.

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  Hi P(aula)P(ollos), I'd like to ask about statements you made in an earlier post and made a request up a few posts in this thread if you have time could you take a look and answer. Thanks so much for being here, and answering so many questions.
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  Mill Hill Disfellowshippings

  by BorgHater in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a few months ago there was a thread about a couple of elders at the mill hill bethel being disfellowshipped because they disagreed with some wt doctrine (i can't recall exactly what it was) and that several other betheliteswere under 'investigation'.

  i haven't heard anything since, does anyone know anything more about this?.

  borghater xx.

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  btt
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  The "Conscious of their Spiritual Need" Class

  by cattails in

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  i've started considering myself one of the members of the conscious class.

  and this post is aimed at those still in and feeling trapped.. at matthew 5:3 jesus said: happy are those conscious of their spiritual need, since the kingdom of the heavens belongs to them.".

  that being the case i'm going to be partaking of the emblems this march 30th, god willing.. if you're still in and your eyes have been opened, if you are conscious of a spiritual need within you that the wt isn't recognizing.... then praise god and christ and keep remembering the ransom sacrifice that purchased your salvation and that for all people.. if you're of the "conscious class" partake this year.

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  Thanks for your answer wobble, and I appreciate your situation, but what about going an hour away for such an event to a congregation where you aren't known. Tell them you're traveling and have a new song book and NWT with you. How would they track you? Would they hold the numbers figure until they get confirmation from another congregation that you're an active Witness? They would most likely be glad that this anointed brother or sister was present and thought the event so important as to stop by the nearest KH to partake.

  But for those still trapped int the Borganization perhaps it would be a good message to the Governing Body that there are "Awake & Conscious" Witnesses sitting in among others in the KHs all over who know Jesus is indeed their Mediator a are going to follow his command to "keep doing this in memory of me".

  (Matthew 5:3) “Happy are those conscious of their spiritual need, since the kingdom of the heavens belongs to them."