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  How come "Johhny the Bethelite" has not been exposed?

  by hotspur in

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  i can't believe johnny the bethelite has not been uncovered.

  unless, of course, he doesn't exist!

  hoping not to give koolaidman any more exposure here but.... .

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  I wish I had more time to comment,but I got to get to the bank before it closers.

  I am making so much I am stacking and bailling it.
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  Jehovah's Witnesses: What covenant are you under?

  by koolaid-man in

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  ask a witness this question and wait for the answer...... in most cases they will tell you they will return with an answer.. http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20120105141524aarmwqj.

  open questionshow me anotherjehovah's witnesses: what covenant are you under?there was the old testament, where the book of the law was by moses and dedicated by the sprinkling of blood.

  (hebrews 9:18:21) and the new testament by the blood of christ under the new covenant.

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  Ask a Witness this question and wait for the answer...... In most cases they will tell you they will return with an answer.

  http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20120105141524AArmWqJ

  Open Question

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  Jehovah's Witnesses: What covenant are you under?

  There was the Old Testament, where the book of the Law was by Moses and dedicated by the sprinkling of blood. (Hebrews 9:18:21) And the New Testament by the blood of Christ under the New Covenant. (Hebrews 10:15-22)
  
  But isn't that new covenant only for the "anointed / spirit-filled / born-again" Christians that is limited to 144,000? (Who was the surveyor that kept track of this number through the ages?) I thought the Bible said "whosoever will, may come; and there's no respect of person with him?"
  
  Anyway...if the above covenant is for a number of people that you are outside of...Which or what covenant (testament) are you under?
  
  Where can I find that in scripture?
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  How come "Johhny the Bethelite" has not been exposed?

  by hotspur in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i can't believe johnny the bethelite has not been uncovered.

  unless, of course, he doesn't exist!

  hoping not to give koolaidman any more exposure here but.... .

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  Hello hotspur, I would like to tell you more, but I run the risk of being disfellowshiped and shunned on this forum if "Johnny the Bethilite" threads keep popping up.
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  I am now officially an Ex-JW!!!!

  by Momma-Tossed-Me in

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  i am now officially by being announced at congregation level that i am no longer one of jehovahs wihtnesses.

  that news spread like wild fire and i was dropped by all jw's on facebook, which shows the level of control the borg has in this area.

  what is interesting is there was no juducial committee.

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  Be glad Satan kicked You out of his Organization.
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  After 100+ years, the Watchtower Society can be summed up in one word...

  by Glander in

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  hubris['hju?br?s], hybris.

  pride or arrogance2.

  (literary & literary critical terms) (in greek tragedy) an excess of ambition, pride, etc., ultimately causing the transgressor's ruin [from greek]hubristic , hybristicadjthey have been able to attract a core of followers, and, like the bullies they are, hold them through a combination of a fear shunning and the childish vision of eternal life in a new world.

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  SHAME
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  Call to legal department Jan 6, 2012

  by koolaid-man in

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  troubled former witness calls legal department at the watchtower organization.............. dale beckman says, can the "society" be guilty of "alienation of affection?

  " in my case, my family has been told it is proper to hate me and to do nothing to help me in any way - otherwise, they could be considered a sharer in my works of "unforgivable sin.

  " they are told not to even greet me.

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  Thank you OnTheWayOut, I am working on calming things down.
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  Call to legal department Jan 6, 2012

  by koolaid-man in

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  troubled former witness calls legal department at the watchtower organization.............. dale beckman says, can the "society" be guilty of "alienation of affection?

  " in my case, my family has been told it is proper to hate me and to do nothing to help me in any way - otherwise, they could be considered a sharer in my works of "unforgivable sin.

  " they are told not to even greet me.

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  Troubled former witness calls legal department at The Watchtower Organization.............

  Dale Beckman says, can the "Society" be guilty of "alienation of affection?" In my case, my family has been told it is proper to hate me and to do nothing to help me in any way - Otherwise, they could be considered a sharer in my works of "unforgivable sin." They are told not to even greet me. So how is a wife or daughter to show love to their father or husband? My wife is divorcing me on "mental cruelty" and so far the court has sided with her. Basically, if one spouse changes their view on any subject and it causes the other distress, it can be considered "mental cruelty" in Illinois. And my wife wants alimony. If she does not drop the divorce, I will sue all parties involved that helped instill fear in her of me.
  It should be interesting to see if this goes through. Because I will be paid by the "Society" and then with that money, I will pay my wife. They will actually be paying for their teachings. But they should smile! At least they are "protecting" their members! And they may end up paying my wife (thru me) for her believing their teachings about me and in turn to fear and leave me and divorcing me!
  I would rather just not have the divorce because I believe she will wake up eventually and I care for her. But she is taught not to listen to me. So what am I to do? I am trying to allow her the most time to "wake up." But things are not looking too good.
  If this does happen, it may help set precedent to allow ones harmed by the teachings of the "Watchtower" to sue - Especially if their family endured hardship or broke up. It may also cause a change of some doctrines of the "Watchtower." They do not listen to Jehovah - Perhaps they will listen to money.
  (I mention that I am currently looking for work - that is true - but I will find something and I am not looking for handouts

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1Fqi4n93Fg&feature=youtu.be
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  Were there 200 JW's disfellowshipped in 1980 all at once - in Cleveland, Ohio?

  by BonaFide in

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  i have some old notes from a 1981 circuit assembly.

  brother frank bartell was the district overseer.

  i am pretty sure its 1981 or 1982.. anyway, in his last talk he said that there was a terrible situation in cleveland ohio the previous year (1980).

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  ppt7000 It would be good to bring you back on The Six Screens of the Watchtower Conference Call and talk about this. I have another caller that has talked about this and maybe we could get you on together. I will private mail you. Thanks Rick
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  Is this possible...... Hundreds of Bethelites now engaged in major reform?

  by koolaid-man in

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  we all know the watchtower organization is now in a defensive mode.

  unrelenting criticism and critical information is rapidly coming forward exposing this esoteric cult.. are their hundreds of bethelites now understanding how evil their "faithfull slave" really is?

  has the revolution begun?.

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  I believe you are all overreacting....

  I simply am asking is a reform possible? I did not say that I believe this is taking place at the world headquaters, it was made perfectly clear that it was put up on another website.

  You all for the most are reading more into it than you should.

  This reminds me of my judicial hearing, the Elders acted pretty much like most of you are.

  Rather than listen to what a man using his real name is saying.... many find it more credible to gather information about me from people hiding in cyber space.

  I say lets focus our effots and work together to expose the Watchtower for who they really are a dangerous and destuctive cult.

  For the sake of new ones coming on this forum ,lets not stumble them by "nit-picking and being excessivley concerned with or critical of inconsequential details.

  By the way I would never vote to have any of you removed from this forum, by doing that we would lose many great posters on the basis of a few attention seekers who have gone on a witch hunt.
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  Is this possible...... Hundreds of Bethelites now engaged in major reform?

  by koolaid-man in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  we all know the watchtower organization is now in a defensive mode.

  unrelenting criticism and critical information is rapidly coming forward exposing this esoteric cult.. are their hundreds of bethelites now understanding how evil their "faithfull slave" really is?

  has the revolution begun?.

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  We all know The Watchtower Organization is now in a defensive mode. Unrelenting criticism and critical information is rapidly coming forward exposing this esoteric cult.

  Are their hundreds of Bethelites now understanding how evil their "Faithfull Slave" really is?

  What do you think?....... Has the revolution begun?

  The following information appears in this website...... http://www.christianwitnesses.com/id347.html

  Click on site for additional information.

  An older, prominent and outspoken brother on high level committees, who has a wife, and is a very good man made a joke regarding Geoffrey Jackson who acts as head of the Governing Body. A couple Bethelites made it into a cartoon, got copies of it circulated. It came to the Governing Body’s attention. It shows the Governing Body as Catholic cardinals of old and also Jackson as the Pope. It was done in a funny, tasteful way but it showed the Governing Body having their hands in everybody’s pockets, shaking them down for money.

  So, many Bethelites have been axed over this, many investigations opened. Those who saw the cartoon, are still being dismissed just for seeing or laughing at it. For example a group was sharing copies of the cartoon in a bathroom when an older brother came in and asked “what are you laughing at?” They too were sent home for it. It was done tastefully and would make anyone laugh even if not for reforms, but Jackson and his Body still had this reaction.

  So now even more people are working for reformation. They are willing to talk to Federal officials, do want their names kept secret but are at many levels inside Bethel and ready to expose wrongdoings to the authorities now—an attorney is involved. They held a private meeting at an out-of-the-way location like at 3 in the morning and agreed Watchtower has become the New Pontiff of this world, what Jehovah’s Witnesses originally rebelled against.

  It seems like about every other talk is about making money over to Watchtower Governing Body although they are already getting tons of JWs’ money.

  On Circuit Overseer had disagreed with the new Body including about some changes put in the new manual. So they stripped him but have so far kept him on kept in Bethel. Many insiders are now here working against the Body. Two are in the legal dept...in case any Governing Body members get arrested it is known that a trustee would be put in place. Two names are on the list now and if happens n 2012 that the one quietly for reforms got in then there would be major reformation.

  He would abolish disfellowshipping except for say the extremes such as murder, adultery, pedophilia. Most Bethelites aganst change would be gotten rid of. We would return to the Bible itself. He doesn’t care about money; just that the organization would survive by donations.

  Also if he becomes trustee he would give out the files on the pedophiles in order to strengthen the case against the Governing Body. Some might try to hide the files which would only get them into even more trouble.

  Watchtower current Charter says all rights would go to any trusteeship taking over. Hopefully by this time next year there would be major changes. “There’s no place for this anymore. For kingdom halls where you fear to ask questions. It’s become unjust, disgraceful.”

  In the 1600s excommunicating by the Catholic Church was the same as it is now with the Watchtower. Instead of crushing and destroying a person, the elders in Bible were to pray over the person. Those for reforms out in the congregations in the U.S. need to keep pushing ahead for changes. Just a little while longer and things will be back to where they should be. Hundreds now have a lawyer, telling that they are willing to give information on wrong-doing here. Shirley Jackson also came on and told Johnny and the rest of us that an ExJW friend Grace Gough was visited by 2 elders. Every since anything Grace (nicknamed Mouthy) sends to Shirley bounces back. Her husband says someone hacked Grace’s account and is behind it. She also can’t get through to the www.christianwitnesses.com website. She can’t communicate with a woman who has JW kids as missionaries. Johnny says yes she may have been hacked into. There’s a worm program that starts as spam. Bethel uses it to get information, it can also jam accounts etc. Getting it would mean that someone big in the Watchtower Society is wanting you to be jammed.

  Sunday: Johnny was given time to speak primarily to the many young Ex- and Current JWs. Among things that happened he was asked by email if he could tell what is in the April 15, 2012 Watchtower before that information gets posted. He said okay he will. He also said that independently of what he is telling if you simply watch the newspapers and news in general you will be able to put it all together that what he is saying is credible. Rick Fearon says that instead of Sunday’s Johnny will endeavor to give a regular Sunday night phone conference coming after the regular Six Screens portion. See www.sixscreensofthewatchtower for further details.

  ADDITIONAL: On either Saturday or Sunday (or possibly both), Johnny explained even more about the Bethel Underground. Namely, there are some anointed concerned because the Governing Body men who profess to be anointed have gone too far in making war on and harming Christ's Brothers and all the Little Ones. There are some 300 inside Bethel fighting now for the reform movement which grows daily. Word has gone out to the construction sites for the new world headquarters and the movement will now be able slow things down.
  
  If the Governing Body were able to kick out all the reformers many of whom are in key positions then they would not be able to function. They can catch some but by no means all. They know that he, Johnny, is for real but either haven't pinpointed who he is since he takes precautions (paid phone card, voice changer etc) or if they suspect then have reason to fear all the information he (or a friend acting for him) can release on them.
  
  If members of the Governing Body are arrested and the Trustee who gets installed is the other one who is against any reforms then he will find that he is discredited as more and more information comes forth. Meanwhile pro-reform JWs outside of Bethel who are aware of cases of pedophilia need to please be reporting those directly at once to the police.
  
  Younger JWs especially also need to be alerted that as older relatives who are JWs are dying they are leaving their entire estates to the Watchtower. The Governing Body is wasting the money going out for lawsuits, their personal wealth and power not for helping Jehovah's cause and the families.