just posting here did do one thing for me, it made me feel good, I guess its a very important first step
you said it all right there
it's nice to see you. i'm glad you took that first courageous step.
Incense_and_Peppermints
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Hello I'm new here...
by Lapuce ini really love this web site and yes i'm a jw still, have been for 8 years now, i'm 35 and am married to a jw and have two boys one is 1-1/2 and the other 5. for about 2 to 3 years now i'm starting to see that its not really the truth.
the brothers, sisters and elders dont really care about anyone, the watchtower is ruining my life, i have been depressed for awhile now and i'm on anti depressants as i started feeling suicidal as i'll never be good enough as i hate meetings, i hate going door to door, and it doesn't make any sense that jehovah will destroy good people just because they don't follow its doctrins.
its like saving to your son if you don't do what i tell you i will kill you.
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Chemical explanation to superstition?
by JanH infrom http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99992589.
paranormal beliefs linked to brain chemistry
19:00 24 july 02
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ooh it vexes me when scientists explain away mystical things like love or "paranormal" activity. i believe in paranormal activity because it happened to me. before i was a witness. i don't believe in "demons" like the witnesses taught me. but i do believe in unseen spiritrual forces or energies, definitley. there are some things occam's razor just can't explain. i have had encounters with paranormal things (as a child, before the jw's) and after, as a young adult. in fact, i was going to start a thread about it and ask people if they had any experiences with "ghosts"... but i won't hijack this thread, i'll post it sometime. p.s. do you think it's all chemical? just curious.
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How about some embarrassing 80's pics?
by LyinEyes inlet's post some of our 80's pic, or even further back if you want to.
it would really be fun to see some of you in your finest witness attire, bookbag and all.
baptism pics would be a blast to see.. wild turkey had this idea ,but he already started two threads.
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3 minutes and it was over....
by LyinEyes inthis is just a side thought about us disassociating ourselves last nite, it took all of three minutes.. 35 years of my life being a jw, same for wild, 11 yrs of him being an elder and it all came down to two men of the phone to finalize our departure.. what i find strange about this, is that not once did they ask us to reconsider, or if we would think about it for a couple of days and then we could get back with them.
they didnt ask for one more shepherding call, they didnt say goodbye, they didnt say we would be missed.
they were so formal almost like robots with no feeling.
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They were so formal almost like robots with no feeling
ooh. i have seen a lot of people use this term for them, myself included. spooky, isn't it?
you asked where did that love go? if it was real, it wouldn't have evaporated just like that. it's all a lie. all an illusion. all of it. smiling robots skittering through their bleak little lives. i'm glad you got out, and your family got out. so, so glad...
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My Honor Student
by TR inlast night at the high school was honors night.
various and sundry honors were handed out all over the place for the honor students.. my daughter received honors for:.
presidential award for educational excellence and gold honor chord- must have grade point average above 3.5. ospi washington state honors- received academic index rating which places her in the top 10% statewide.. aa degree- 2 year degree from sfcc.
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congratulations!
as a parent of an "honor student" also, i know what it takes for that to happen. it takes an enormous amount ot work and perseverance on the part of the child, and a never-ending supply of love, support and assistance from the parents. i don't know how to show a pat on the back in cyberese to you and your wife, but i'm giving you one right now! (pat-pat)
i just received my son's schedule for next year. he will be entering his sophmore year and will be taking:
language arts 3-4 (honors)
world history (honors)
spanish 3-4
lunch
chemistry (honors)
pre-calculus (honors)
academic decathalon (honors)i also got his grade report for last year:
racquet sports (A)
algebra 3-4 (A)
spanish 1-2 (A)
theatre (A)
biology (honors - A)
language arts 1-2 (A)i posted this for the world to see because i want to rejoice in my child's learning, and his love of learning, and in his academic excellence. it's like flipping a gigantic bird to the watchtower bible and tract society, because they would dismiss education of our children as a waste of time.
p.s. if anyone wants any information about the academic decathalon, visit their website: http://www.usad.org/
if your child is among the top ten winners for the year, they receive a full-ride scholarship to a college in their home state.p.p.s. thank you whoever posted the sholarship link.
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GILROY GARLIC FESTIVAL
by LDH inanyone else want to meet up?
it's this weekend, july 27,28,29 in gilroy, california.. .
finnrot and i (along with my family) will be there, and if any of you are planning to go, drop me an email or post it here.. .
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is that near laguna beach? i'm going to go to laguna beach hopefully in the middle of august for vacation...
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Unconditional love
by libra_spirit ini have seen this talked about many times and on many xjw boards but never really hit on the reason i have searched so fervently for it.. why do i expect to find "unconditional love" in my relationships.. well the answer has smacked me in the face.
normal people, that is non jw associates, normally get this kind of love from thier parents.
the parent child bond is the closest thing to unconditional love that i have ever felt, i have kids and i know this.
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i personally believe that the only true unconditional love is between a parent and child. as a parent, you would accept anything about your child and support them through anything, no matter what. as a child, you would endure any amount of abuse and betrayal from your parents and still love them. you say:
A good friend pointed this out to me the other day and said "You XJWs need to quit expecting your spouses to love you as a mother, unconditionally, you are all out of balance and warped." "No one can give you this kind of love but your mommy!"
fisrt of all, i don't think labeling someone is ever a good thing, like when somone says "you so-and-so's are...".
everyone wants love without conditions, whether they're former witnesses or not. it's not warped, it's human - human to want someone to love you for who you are, deep inside. otherwise your connection is superficial, and ultimately unfulfilling. i don't see your vision as a manifestation of your jw experience, or as something unrealistic or unhealthy. you also say:
Guess I am still pretty sick!
i hope you don't really believe that. something happened to me when i left the wts... i stopped allowing other people to tell me what to think, what to feel, and how to live my life, and how to love, who to love, who not to love, etc. i also don't permit anyone to make me mistrust my instincts or doubt my faith in myself.
i began piloting my own boat and of course it's scary and the sea is choppy and i'm not safe in a lagoon, but i'll get it one of these days. at least i am master of my own craft now. why should you accept someone else's idea of what love is or isn't? if your heart and soul are crying out for it, then it is something rreal and true and should be honored, always. a true communion with another is indeed possible. you have to dwell in possibility...
p.s. jw's don't love anyone without conditions. i spent 100% of my time trying to meet every single condition set forth by the wts, which is why i despise them. it's as if you have to stop being human; have to ignore your basic human desires and feelings and become a robot. a smiling robot.
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Amazing.... what white bubble?
by FiveShadows inyou saidl "first, you scroll over what you want to quote from another person's comments, then.
copy it.
then, you past it where you want it and add return strokes to assure it is.
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you know what, fiveshadows? i never see the little icons either. no matter how long i wait. so i just sort of hunt and peck. after a while you start remembering them simply from their placement on the toolbar, like bold, italic, etc. on the bottom left, for example. (ooh i didn't know you could do a spell-check!)
p.s. you don't look stupid. not one bit.
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Your'e All In Your Own Right - Stars
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Inquiring minds want to know......................
by SpiceItUp inwho is jesus christ and who is the devil?.
any ideas people?.
spice of the nosy class
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maybe the devil and jesus are one and the same... i hope we find out soon. (i KNOW it's dustrabbit!)
p.s. that "miffed" comment was for justin. poor kid's gone for two weeks and he comes in and sees me accusing him of being the devil, heh. didn't want him to be mad at me. that would just tear me up inside :)
