Posts by mindmelda

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What is your "INTUITION" about THE SECRET "law of attraction"?

by Terry in

ever hear somebody say, "trust your gut..."?.

or, like obe wan kenobe: "trust your feelings...."?.

have you ever followed that "little voice" that whispers to you that you should or should not do something?.

mindmelda

Psychologists who use trait typing define intuitive thinking differently than the mystical defintion. It simply means being able to grasp general principles and ideas before details, thinking from generalities to specifics rather than using specifics to get to the "big picture".

There' s nothing weird about it, it's just a more right brained way of learning. I'm a right brained intuitive thinker...but only about 25 % of the population is.

It is less common than left brained detail and logic oriented thinking, but I tend to grasp what's called "global concepts" quicker than what is usual.

It also makes it hard for me to get to the details sometimes. I hate details...they tend to trip me up. Both kinds of thinking are useful, both exist in everyone, but one trait is usually more predominant than the other.

If you go to a psychologist and they test you, you can find this out. It's a bunch of questions that let them know how you learn and think.

Intuitives tend to be more "outside of the box' thinkers, good with broad concepts, but it can just seem flakey to people who aren't. Also, since most people have to work through the details step by step to get to the general concept, they can often think you're "cheating" if you're an intuitive thinker, because they can't figure out why you got to the end result faster, and it's a rarer thing. One isn't better than the other, just different kinds of learning and using your brain.

I don't know what "the Secret" is but I'm thinking someone made a bunch of money off of it. Just a hunch.

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Is it mind control or just strong social conformity?

by AK - Jeff in

or are the two interconnected?.

just watched a dateline episode that dealt with social conformity in which they duplicated the 50's experiment telling a person to shock another while listening to him scream from the other room.

most of the people involved just kept shocking the other person due to the authority figure in the room telling them to continue.. so, are jw's under mind control in it's purest form, or just under social conformity pressure?

mindmelda

Social conformity is a form of mind control. It doesn't require waterboarding to get someone to do things against their usual inclination, just some good old peer pressure will do.

Remember high school? Remember how miserable you were sometimes? That was social conformity working on you. When you never felt good enough, smart enough, or good looking enough.

The B-Org is a lot like that...only they play with more loaded dice.

I also think the degree of "mind control" varies from person to person. There's an old saying among con artist that you can only con a person as long as they want what they think you're offering. People who want certain things are going to want what the Witnesses have to offer, and the degree to which they want it determines their depth of involvement.

Oh, it's nothing bad, it's just that it's just stuff no one can give you...you have to find it yourself, within yourself. Even God can't give what the Witnesses promise, which is utopian BS that was never really a utopia anyway. You do all know that word is ironic in usage, don't you?

It means, "not a place" which means that utopian societies look much better on paper than they do in reality, and are allegorical, not literal. Since humans don't behave ideally, how can one have an ideal society without fundamentally changing human nature itself? We'd have to totally eliminate individual desire and need to have a totally peaceful, unified and organized society.

Give me some good old human chaos any old day over that fantasy!

Life is dirty, messy and complicated, deal with it. See, that's what I really hate about the Witnesses. They're afraid of real life, so they invent a fantasy existence and call it "the spiritual paradise" but it's really a training camp for how to live in denial of the real, messy and screwed up human world that we all have to learn to live in.

That's why they attract people with poor coping skills, like me. I had really crappy coping skills and they took away the few I had and replaced them with something even worse...believing in total brain turds.

Finding out the real world is do-able and that I can really cope with it while working with a therapist helped me conquer anxiety and depression more than 34 years of fairy tales and avoiding reality.

In fact, I think it was a big cause of it. Denial, there's a mind killer.

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Tattoos/Piercings?

by Think About It in

jw
friends

i feel like woody allen in the 1973 movie "the sleeper".

i leave in 1995, wake up 15 yrs later to see what has been going on in the jw religion and find out it is completely different from what i left.

i started a thread about beards, because i wanted to know how the modern day beard and goatee fad went over in the kh's.. now i'm curious about the tattoo, piercings and short or shaved hair look.

mindmelda

Oh, I like tattoos...there are just certain places I wouldn't get one...like on my breast. I wouldn't want to see that cute little rose turn into the long stemmed variety.

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Tattoos/Piercings?

by Think About It in

jw
friends

i feel like woody allen in the 1973 movie "the sleeper".

i leave in 1995, wake up 15 yrs later to see what has been going on in the jw religion and find out it is completely different from what i left.

i started a thread about beards, because i wanted to know how the modern day beard and goatee fad went over in the kh's.. now i'm curious about the tattoo, piercings and short or shaved hair look.

mindmelda

LOL, I know so many younger sisters who have "secret" tattoos...I didn't realize a pioneer sister had one until she bent over in front of me to pick her child up and her "tramp stamp" popped up over the waistband of her jeans.

Do what you like...but just remember, when you're 80, you'll look like a wrinkled newspaper.

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You Lie I Lie

by dearone in

jw
friends

i am still presently 'active' because of family and have recently been hounded by the elder due to low hours in the ministry.

i have decided though that i now feel that i can lie on my service report because fds has set the perfect example for me to follow.

yesterday in the watchtower study they were misleading in refering to millions now living may never die, and also used two scriptures to support the need to witness day and night but the scriptures were completly unrealated and taken out of context.

mindmelda

I used to lie like a rug on my FS report to keep the elders off my back, and then I'd wonder how many others were doing the same...and laugh, because they're so keen on those numbers.

Probably a bunch of hooey like the rest of it...thanks to deceitful apostate scum like me.

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Congregation "Bible Study" Comments - Week Commencing 26 April 2010

by LUKEWARM in

*** cf chap.

lowly in heart" ***.

will you follow the pattern jesus set?.

mindmelda

THE WTS DEFINES HUMILITY FOR US

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What's your favorite Canadian band?

by lepermessiah in

since we have a lot of canadian friends on this board, i have to ask - who are your favorite canadian bands?.

mine is rush.

they have been one of my favorite bands ever since i can remember.. they totally rule........the music and lyrics are all top notch.. the other one is the tea party - jeff martin is a genius.

mindmelda

Nickelback! A salute to the WTS, "Burn it To the Ground!" (I also like k.d. Lang)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxgeSv88c2w

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Sexual Repression 101. Pure WT Gold: Wednesday's Daily Text.

by Open mind in

wednesday's daily text was a masterpiece.

each sentence just added another layer of sexual guilt and repression.

i could go off for at least another 500 words but i'll stop.. .

mindmelda

Yes, and teenagers aren't supposed to think too much about sex, but they go to the Kingdom Hall and at least once a month have to hear some squirmy discussion about the evils of ninety nine different kinds of sex that people have to go to the Donkey show in Mexico to even see.

I remember a little kid asking his mom "What's beastiality?" after the meeting. You know, most kids don't even hear about that shit until they're way older than that!

Unfortunately, sexual repression always backfires one way or another, but good old Puritanical America still keeps on shoveling it. It either makes people totally frigid and afraid of sex, or it makes everyone just horribly curious about all the forbidden fruit.

I think that the JWs are actually proud of being like the Puritans in some ways, I've seen that said in WTS literature.

Think about it...these were people so anal and uptight that the English got rid of them. LOL I mean, Lord, how tight assed do you have to be to get the upper crust pinkies out Brits to kick you out of the country for being a self righteous bunch of twits!

(my apologies to any upper crust pinkies out Brits on the board)

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DATING A PAGAN: WHY OR WHY NOT?

by White Dove in

a couple of people on another thread said that they would not and do not date pagans.

why not?

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mindmelda

If I was single, I doubt a fundy would date me. LOL I'm way too fond of things that they get upset about, like having a lot of gay friends and hanging out with the Wiccans and learning to cast spells, and investigating the paranormal, Buddhist meditation and chanting with Hopi medicine men.

I'm too flakey for fundies, the few I've met are afraid of me.

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Getting into Arguments with JW's...

by ForbiddenFruit in

i'm trying to fade away, but i sometimes find myself in discussions or arguments with jw family/friends/white haired virgin elders.

now, i usually have them beat on things but i'm not very experienced, so i was thinking if you guys could help me put together a list of completely unanswerable questions to pose to my jw friends/family/elders so they can stop bugging me.

if i keep asking them questions they simply cannot answer, then they might leave them alone.

mindmelda

What's so great about the brotherhood anyway? I was treated like dirt by them much of the time. I'm glad you're having a better time with that, but it was one of the main reasons I'm not a Witness anymore and haven't been for some time.

After you've been screwed over more by Witnesses in business deals than you ever were by "worldly" people, or have an elder scream at you and call you vile names a few times, you may feel differently too.

I can forgive that, and do. What I can't forget is why belong to an organization that never tried to correct it and excused it when it was repeatedly brought to their attention and tried to make me feel I was wrong for speaking up about being cheated and verbally abused. Blaming the victim is poor policy anyway you cut it and hardly defines justice, which if I remember correctly, is an aspect of God himself.

Witnesses proved to me over and over again over the 34 years I was associated that they don't practice love as a whole and that they aren't any different than the people they condemn.

And besides, they blatantly teach nonsense as the absolute God's truth and one day, it's all going to blow up in their faces eventually when their false promises never come to pass, as they haven't come to pass for the last 136 years.

If you need a God that commands men of faith to slaughter and burn their children to appease him, be happy with it. That's pretty much the Witness conception of God anyway, so it would no doubt suit many of them to believe that. After all, whats one person when he's about to get medieval on 99% of the world's population and righteously slaughter them, according to what Witnesses teach?