Heisenberg originally developed the principle for the reasons Terry outlined, and it is logical. The math didn't come until schrodinger's equation and then it was shown that the uncertainty wasn't a part of the measurement process. If it was, then the uncertainty wouldn't be there when dealing with purely theoreticals. In other words, uncertainty is not an observer effect. According to the present theory, quantum particles with both a definite position and momentum do not exist.
Razziel
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An Explanation of why TIME TRAVEL does not work
by Terry inenergy and matter are neither created nor destroyed.. consequently, the building blocks of existence are actually finite parts.. to create things in "tomorrow" which are new, something has to be dismantled to leave spare parts for tomorrow's new thing.. the old thing deteriorates, (dies/disintegrates) and the parts become available to make the new thing.. time travel requires going to a place where today's parts are available to be rearranged.. some of today's things persist as they are, of course.
they only travel through time by persisting as they are.
(mountains, for example.).
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An Explanation of why TIME TRAVEL does not work
by Terry inenergy and matter are neither created nor destroyed.. consequently, the building blocks of existence are actually finite parts.. to create things in "tomorrow" which are new, something has to be dismantled to leave spare parts for tomorrow's new thing.. the old thing deteriorates, (dies/disintegrates) and the parts become available to make the new thing.. time travel requires going to a place where today's parts are available to be rearranged.. some of today's things persist as they are, of course.
they only travel through time by persisting as they are.
(mountains, for example.).
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Razziel
I'm late to the party, but I wanted to comment on heisenberg's uncertainty principle. Terry's explanation (with the example of a momentum measurement affecting position, and vice-versa a position measurement affecting momentum) was how the uncertainty principle was explained to me in university physics when we briefly overviewed quantum physics.
Later, when I took the actual quantum mechanics course, it was mathematically shown the uncertainty principle goes a lot further than that. It's inherent in the mathematics of the sub-atomic world. Solving the schrodinger and matrix equations for whatever operator you want to define (energy, momentum, position, etc) involves using complex conjugates (you get two answers). One answer is (value +h/2), and the other is (value -h/2). So the theoretical answer is (value +/- h/2). This is dealing only in theoreticals, with no physical measurements involved whatsoever.
It follows that the uncertainty in the measurements we could possibly make of sub-atomic particles are a consequence of the uncertainty principle, they aren't the cause of it.
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Razziel
Try and look at it from their point of view. When you straight out say something is inappropriate or immoral, they take that as an accusation of something they may not even have thought of until you mentioned it. They also infer that you do not trust them. They will feel as if you are treating them like a child, and your relationship goes from being equal partners, to parent-child, and they will usually leave the relationship pretty quickly.
It's a fine line of letting your likes/dislikes be known without coming across as "this is how you have to dress/act if you want to be with me." It takes practice. To be crass, if you come across as condemnatory or controlling, you are basically taking a crap on their value system, which leaves most people deeply offended. Even if you really were compatible you can ruin the relationship just by the way you phrase things.
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What would you all do in this situation?
by EndofMysteries in- a married ex from a few years ago who has a kid now too, who after being with you got married within a few months, seems to decide they may have made a mistake, and want to meet you for a weekend but supposedly not to do anything wrong just for closure.
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Razziel
Send her a video, titled "Closure", of you zipping up your pants.
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Silent Lambs in Wikipedia to be deleted
by Gerard inthere are a couple of jw zealots campaingning in wikipedia to delete the silent lambs article.
i'd like to request your editing time in order to search for additional references to be included and make their censoring task imposible.
thanks.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/silentlambs.
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Razziel
Yeah when I tried to make a comment, it put me on the editing page for the article. I went ahead and made a couple of grammar/syntax fixes.
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Silent Lambs in Wikipedia to be deleted
by Gerard inthere are a couple of jw zealots campaingning in wikipedia to delete the silent lambs article.
i'd like to request your editing time in order to search for additional references to be included and make their censoring task imposible.
thanks.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/silentlambs.
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Razziel
Whoever changed up the entry yesterday did a very good job. The format is presented much better than it was before, and the citations are improved. It still needs some proofreading for grammar and maybe a little fine tuning, but it's a big improvement on what was there 24 hours ago. One thing that should probably be added for fairness in the references is at least one link to the official website of JWs. Didn't there used to be a webpage on their site that explained their policies? I looked briefly but all I could find are those generic "how to protect your children" articles.
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ONE! NO EQUAL!
by wannabe inbut he still wasn't finished, to my surprise, and i'd thought he was, with his last comment.
i thought!
i thought!
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Razziel
Here's my human analogy thought experiment...
If humans are created in God's image... What would happen to the human conscious if it was isolated by itself for an indeterminate period of time? It might fragment itself in an attempt to keep its sanity in an infinity of loneliness. Each fragment might become a distinct personality based on specific traits from the original singular personality.
In the case of a human being, seperate personalities would just be different manifestations of the same human. But in the case of a supreme being who wields the power of creation? Each personality could become a distinct individual while sharing the same divine essense.
Back to reality...
Personally, I've seen good arguments both for and against the trinity. Regardless of how you look at it, there is no black and white answer in the Bible. I see the trinity doctrine just like a scientific hypothesis. It's an attempt to harmonize multiple scriptures that state/infer both a singular God and three entities of divine origin into one doctrine that can explain all of the these scriptures satisfactorily (which is itself a source of dispute).
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Who actually decides that a person is chosen by God to be an elder?
by brainwashed-from-birth inis there an interview?
what sort of things do they look at, or expect out of the person?
besides being a man.
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Razziel
Off topic, but if i remember correctly, the only biblical difference in scriptural qualifications between an elder and MS is being "qualified to teach." Using that criteria, a lot of elders should be demoted.
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Who actually decides that a person is chosen by God to be an elder?
by brainwashed-from-birth inis there an interview?
what sort of things do they look at, or expect out of the person?
besides being a man.
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Razziel
I thought I read somewhere the GB doesn't vote on appointments anymore? That appointments are decided by the service department.
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Why Do Americans Live Shorter Lives Yet Spend So Much for Health Care ???
by RubaDub inevery time i see statistics comparing average lifespans amoung countries, why is the usa so far down the list???.
with susposedly the best healthcare in the world (for those who can afford it), the last study i saw ranked the usa at number 38 in the world.
yet, we spend 4, 5 or even 10 times more per person on health care than most others.. what gives ???.
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Razziel
In other developed countries, the market is also saturated with fast food and the population has a high proportion of overweight people. The epidemic of adult diabetes for instance is not just an american phenomena but affects almost 9% of the population of Europe. They still have a higher average life expectancy. Some would say its skewed even further because here in the US, drastic attempts to extend life are made even when quality of life is gone, whereas many european countries are more comfortable letting people go once quality of life is gone.
I think the big difference in a socialized health care system is preventative care. Here in the U.S. a lot of preventative care is not covered by insurance. If you have a high deductible, or no insurance, you don't generally even go to the doctor unless you are seriously ill. We spend most of our resources trying to treat catastrophic health problems instead of preventing them in the first place, though we are getting better.
That said, I don't see how socialized health care would work in the US without major system changes. It's an economic supply/demand issue. As big and clunky as our system is, it can hardly keep up with the patients it has now. Most adults I know have to wait at least a month (sometimes 2 or 3) to get an appointment scheduled. Opening up health care to all would result in the same thing that happened when the U.S. tried to regulate gas prices in the 1970's resulting in the oil crisis. Price fixing always results in shortages. The number of doctors and nurses in the US would have to grow dramatically before we could reasonably handles all the new patients in a reasonable amount of waiting time.