The Covenant With Death was made by J.Rutherford!
http://thebiblereport.blogspot.com/2008/08/video-chapter-covenant-with-death.html
Awsome video.
abe
the covenant with death was made by j.rutherford!.
http://thebiblereport.blogspot.com/2008/08/video-chapter-covenant-with-death.html.
awsome video.. .
The Covenant With Death was made by J.Rutherford!
http://thebiblereport.blogspot.com/2008/08/video-chapter-covenant-with-death.html
Awsome video.
abe
most jws dread the thought of never being talked to again by a fellow "brother" or "sister".
the thought of being shunned by your flesh and blood keeps many witnesses in the religion.. is df'ing or dissasociation all that terrible?
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Yes, It is bad however, I also jumped for joy when I left the Kingdom Hall for the last time after my disfellowshipping.
I am now "outside the camp" being shunned and reproached by those who are still inside:
Hebrews 13
12 Hence Jesus also, that he might sanctify the people with his own blood, suffered outside the gate. 13 Let us, then, go forth to him outside the camp, bearing the reproach he bore, 14 for we do not have here a city that continues, but we are earnestly seeking the one to come.
I was disfellowshipped because I began voicing my concerns over how the JW Baptismal Vows had been altered and yet Jesus Christ said his baptismal command was to be in place right up to the conclusion of this system of things.
I explained that Jesus Christ must be distressed over people who presumptously change his commandments.
And yes my conviction over Jesus Christ's baptism causes divisions right down to the family unit level.
Luke 12
49 “I came to start a fire on the earth, and what more is there for me to wish if it has already been lighted? 50 Indeed, I have a baptism with which to be baptized, and how I am being distressed until it is finished! 51 Do YOU imagine I came to give peace on the earth? No, indeed, I tell YOU , but rather division. 52 For from now on there will be five in one house divided, three against two and two against three. 53 They will be divided, father against son and son against father, mother against daughter and daughter against [her] mother, mother-in-law against [her] daughter-in-law and daughter-in-law against [her] mother-in-law.”
I am convinced that the Jehovah's Witnesses disfellowshipping procedure is prophetic!
Why?
Watch this video:
http://thebiblereport.blogspot.com/2008/08/disfellowshipping-is-prophetic.html
In Christ (outside the camp)
abe
anyone watch this video?
it looks like it was made in the 1970s.
i wonder how the person(s) making this video got all these people together without the internet... .
I would watch it if you put a link.
This is my favorite JW video:
http://thebiblereport.blogspot.com/2008/10/jehovahs-witnesses-inner-chambers.html
abe
hallo,.
i would like to discuss some items in one topic:.
1)most of the people who left jehovah's witnesses also left institutional christianity,i mean they did not join another group (or did they)?.
Some righteous men who are still JW's have warned others about the disgusting thing and have been disfellowshipped!
This also fulfills an endtime bible prophecy that can ONLY be fulfilled by Jehovah's Witnesses.
Yes, disfellowshipping IS prohetic.
See the video:
http://thebiblereport.blogspot.com/2008/08/disfellowshipping-is-prophetic.html
Since leaving the JW Organization my faith in the bible has increased!
Regards
abe
hallo,.
i would like to discuss some items in one topic:.
1)most of the people who left jehovah's witnesses also left institutional christianity,i mean they did not join another group (or did they)?.
If you are now outside the JW Organization then you are already in the right place!
Yes, I beleive that the WTS was Jesus Christs true kingdom and because I am now outside my bible faith has increased not decreased.
This condition IS scriptural!
Hebrews 13
12 Hence Jesus also, that he might sanctify the people with his own blood, suffered outside the gate. 13 Let us, then, go forth to him outside the camp, bearing the reproach he bore, 14 for we do not have here a city that continues, but we are earnestly seeking the one to come.
The real Kingdom is now starting to grow.
It started with one..................................... a mustard seed.
(someone had to be first to leave for righteous reasons after seeing the disgusting thing)
In order to leave the Holy City you have to go out by the gate.
More scriptural proof:
Micah 2
13 “The one making a breakthrough will certainly come up before them: they will actually break through. And they will pass through a gate, and they will go out by it. And their king will pass through before them, with Jehovah at the head of them.”
So after going out by the gate where are you now?
You are in!
Scriptural proof:
Micah 2
12 “‘I shall positively gather Jacob, all of you; I shall without fail collect the remaining ones of Israel together. In unity I shall set them, like a flock in the pen, like a drove in the midst of its pasture; they will be noisy with men.’
Now that you have gone OUT of the gate you are IN the pen.
The sheep in the pen are being separated from the goats.
The goats have been "left behind" (in the corrupted kingdom.
The scriptures really are being fulfilled.
Many people are now seeing the disgusting thing and going out by the gate. They are withdrawing, fleeing to the mountains.
Did you see the disgusting thing.
Watch this video.
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=4246716041299074073
Regards
abe
i'm new to this forum and am also sacolton's wife.
alot of you already know about me because he's talked about me on here before...even has posted pictures, at which he incurred my wrath upon my discovery.
anyways...i'm about to submit my letter of disassociation to my local congregation and i thought i would share it.
Yippy,
I recommend that you tell them that you don't want to go door to door teaching people Satan's original lie.
Lie 1 JW's: - Millions now living will never die!
Lie 1 Satan: - you positvely will not die!
Lie 2 JW's: - You can know the truth!
Lie 2 Satan: You can know the difference between good and bad.
It's the EXACT Same Lies!
Download and attach the linked to 2 page document to your letter for a more greaphical communication of the above:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/11566728/Jehovahs-Witnesses-and-Satans-lie
Next, tell them that you don't want to go door to door teaching people that Jesus Christ is communicating to this world only through a small and exclusive group of men from soewhere deep inside the inner chambers of the Brooklyn Bethel.
Then quote this scripture:
Matthew 24:25
23 “Then if anyone says to YOU , ‘Look! Here is the Christ,’ or, ‘There!’ do not believe it. 24 For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will give great signs and wonders so as to mislead, if possible, even the chosen ones. 25 Look! I have forewarned YOU . 26 Therefore, if people say to YOU , ‘Look! He is in the wilderness,’ do not go out; Look! ‘He is in the inner chambers,’ do not believe it.!
For a more graphical presentation attach this two page document to your letter also:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/7597340/Jehovahs-Witnesses-Knocking
I was disfellowshipped for sending my letter not just to the Presiding Overseer but also to each and every other member of the congregation as well as any other JW address (snail mail and email)I had in my possession!
Sent over 150 letters.
I did it for Jesus Christ's sake.
When I left the judicial committee hearing I jumped for joy.
My recommendation.
Go out with a bang!
Regards
abe
which 5 books would you recommend?.
there is a wealth of information, just waiting to be shared with persons who have an open mind and a desire to know the truth about the watchtower society.
please list five books (more or less) that you would recommend to new ones.. i hope to discover something new from your lists.
leavingwt,
This is the most profound book regarding the WTS which I have seen:
Jehovah's Witnesses - The Bible Report
It is different because it uses actual scriptures to show how the JW's are in fact fullfilling bible prohecies.
It thoroughly condemns the WTS using scriptures and historical events.
It shows how the disgusting thing enters the holy place.
It reveals the man of lawlessness.
It shows how the number 666 is calculated.
It explains how Jehovah's Witnesses receive the mark of the beast on their forehead or hand due to one of their own doctrines in regard to the baptismal ceremony.
A good place to start is by watching a video where the receving of "the mark" is explained.
http://thebiblereport.blogspot.com/2008/07/jehoavhs-witnesses-forehead-or-hand.html
or where the "millions now living will never die" doctrine is proved to be "the covenant with death" in Isaiah Chapter 28.
http://thebiblereport.blogspot.com/2008/08/video-chapter-covenant-with-death.html
The book is a must read.
regards
abe
right now at bethel, they are laying off and reassigning again.
if you have cancer or some other illness, you are a liability and it's time to pack.
i remember the night when we had the special talk about there being a great need in the field and some would be sent out.
So are these WTS corporate reductions due to a financial problem or is "the kingdom" shrinking out in the field and so fewer head office resources are needed?
I cannot count how many times I heard from the Kingdom Hall platform that money would never be a problem because Jehovah was blessing the kingdom work.
So if plenty of money means that Jehovah is blessing "the kingdom work".
What does a reduction in financial and human resources mean?
Are the widows, orphans and afflicted ones being looked after?
Is there a sharing so that none will have a need?
Are those appointed over their belongings looking after them or shedding them because of the cost burden?
Are the sheep being gathered or dispersed?
In Christ
abe
does the wts fit the description of the evil slave in jesus parable?.
i'd like to see everyone that cares to discuss that.
sometimes when i read that parable, it occurs to me that maybe it's the wts that better fits the description of the evil slave, the one who beat his brothers, abused them.
VM44,
Judge Rutherford was the GB member who invented the "Millions now living will never die" doctrine.
You will never die, you positively will not die.
To see how far reaching and evil this doctrine is read the following 2 page newsletter which is available for download on SCRIBD:
here: http://www.scribd.com/doc/11566728/Jehovahs-Witnesses-and-Satans-lie
Regards
abe
does the wts fit the description of the evil slave in jesus parable?.
i'd like to see everyone that cares to discuss that.
sometimes when i read that parable, it occurs to me that maybe it's the wts that better fits the description of the evil slave, the one who beat his brothers, abused them.
In my opinion they ARE the evil slave.
There is a prophetic scripture in the last Chapter of Isaiah which convinces me.
Here it is:
Isaiah 66:5
5 Hear the word of Jehovah, YOU men who are trembling at his word: “Y OUR brothers that are hating YOU , that are excluding YOU by reason of my name, said, ‘May Jehovah be glorified!’ He must also appear with rejoicing on YOUR part, and they are the ones that will be put to shame.”
Jehovah's Witnesses are the ONLY religion which excludes righteous brothers through the use of God's actual name..... Jehovah!
During the Lord’s Day, this time of the end there is no other religion that uses God’s name in such a way. The official procedure can be found in the fourth paragraph on page 154 of the “Organized To Do Jehovah’s Will” book as follows:
“When it is necessary to disfellowship an unrepentant wrongdoer from the congregation, a brief announcement is made, simply stating: “[Name of person] is no longer one of Jehovah’s Witnesses”
Of course an anointed one who takes a stand for our King Jesus Christ has no need to be repentant!
Now please consider that the book; “Organized To Do Jehovah’s Will” was published in the year 2005. This form of disfellowshipping which echoes the very end time prophecies found in the bible has only just recently become a Jehovah’s Witness procedure.
Is there any other Christian Religion in existence worldwide that has a procedure which excludes people from their midst by reason of God’s actual name, Jehovah?
A righteous Christian should agree that such a procedure belongs only to Jehovah’s Witnesses and so this end time prophecy cannot be fulfilled through any other religion!
Therefore the evil slave is inside of the Jehovah's Witness Organization.
The faithfull slave will be excluded through the use of God's name.
The faithfull slave are outside the corrupted city being reproached and persecuted (beaten) by all who remain inside.
Hebrew 13
12 Hence Jesus also, that he might sanctify the people with his own blood, suffered outside the gate. 13 Let us, then, go forth to him outside the camp, bearing the reproach he bore, 14 for we do not have here a city that continues, but we are earnestly seeking the one to come.
There is a great video about this which cane be found here:
http://thebiblereport.blogspot.com/2008/08/disfellowshipping-is-prophetic.html
In Christ
abe