Posts by deemoo

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Need your feedback please! Relationship question.

by MisfitMeL in

jw
friends

ok i'm not sure where to put this thread, but seeing as this section is the one that is most frequented by members, i hope to get some feedback asap.. i am a person that has issues with depression and fairly recently i have started paying a bit of attention to my 'mood swings' and have noticed a sort of high in addition to my lows.

this has made me a little worried that i might have some mild form of bpd.... but then i do tend to worry over nothing!.

i do not have therapy because i currently cannot afford it.

deemoo

Hey MisfitMel!

You're in India! If you're around Delhi or Chennai, I have a cousin & a friend.. both girls... there who have both dealt with depression and can be just friends/company in a new country (if it is so)

About the boyfriend... just give him some time to think things through. A lot of people don't understand it and ask why we can't just "think happy thoughts" or "focus on the good things". Your boyfriend may or may not be so, but giving him some resources about depression might help him. Beyond Blue is a pretty good website, I've found.

The abruptness might just be due to the suddenness of all this information about something he doesn't know too much about. Hearing that you have had suicidal thoughts before, when a he simply cannot see it in the wonderful person he is with now, may have shocked and worried him. He'll be wondering what else he doesn't know about you, and if he's with a whole different person.

Give him some time to figure things through. Try not to email him constantly and ask what he's thinking because guys tend to like space. It's really hard, I know... but just try :D

I can't believe I'm dishing out advice like this! But hey, I've been through this exact phase :)

If he's worth it, he'll stick by you and try to find out more... and support you even if he doesn't understand. You aren't that person anymore, but it is a part of your past and he'll be able to accept that with some thinking.

Take care! Enjoy the mad, mad country that India is!

Oh, and PM me if you want to chit-chat privately.

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What does an MS do?

by deemoo in

right... so i've hung around on jwn for a while now, but i simply can't figure out where an ministerial servant stands in the hierarchy scheme of the wts.. there's the r&f or rank & file.. then there seems to be the microphone handlers, sound checkers, donation bin watchers, index card for territory managers, person who is in charge of the books, etc.. then there are elders.

circuit overseers.

bethelites.

deemoo

Thank you yknot!

And everyone else... the descriptions make me giggle :D

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What does an MS do?

by deemoo in

right... so i've hung around on jwn for a while now, but i simply can't figure out where an ministerial servant stands in the hierarchy scheme of the wts.. there's the r&f or rank & file.. then there seems to be the microphone handlers, sound checkers, donation bin watchers, index card for territory managers, person who is in charge of the books, etc.. then there are elders.

circuit overseers.

bethelites.

deemoo

Hahaha... okay... seriously?

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What does an MS do?

by deemoo in

right... so i've hung around on jwn for a while now, but i simply can't figure out where an ministerial servant stands in the hierarchy scheme of the wts.. there's the r&f or rank & file.. then there seems to be the microphone handlers, sound checkers, donation bin watchers, index card for territory managers, person who is in charge of the books, etc.. then there are elders.

circuit overseers.

bethelites.

deemoo

Right... so I've hung around on JWN for a while now, but I simply can't figure out where an Ministerial Servant stands in the hierarchy scheme of the WTS.

There's the R&F or Rank & File.

Then there seems to be the Microphone Handlers, Sound Checkers, Donation Bin Watchers, Index Card for Territory Managers, Person who is in charge of the Books, etc.

Then there are Elders

Circuit Overseers

Bethelites

and so on and so forth.

Who/what is a Ministerial Servant? What sort of job does he/she have in the grand scheme of things. It seems to be an important position, but so far, I haven't been able to figure out just what an MS does.

Please explain.

Thanks!

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"not a good example"

by LoriJis in

i have a concern i guess or just want to vent.

my husband and i - as most of you know - we're married just a little under 2 months and you all know at that point i was still "active" in the org.

we had a few issues with our bridal party - namely the groom - cuz according to them he wasnt a good example and not in good status because they hadn't seen him at the meetings or in service for like 2 months.

deemoo

Just WOW. It's stories like this that affirm to me that I will never be a Witness.

The org gets to decide who will be at your wedding?! My mind is boggled.

Backstory: I'm studying with the Witnesses to learn about beliefs, but have made it clear to them that I will never become one.

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Creator or Evolution? Confused...

by Newborn in

jw
friends

i don't feel i have to know the truth about how life started or where we're coming from etc, but can't help thinking abt it anyway now and then.

guess it's only natural.. right now i feel really clueless and that i have too little knowledge abt the darwin, big bang theory.... (i was always taught by the dubs that darwin questioned his own theory...but was it really so?)..

i have a close friend who's sure of the evolution but can really the complex and wonderful life and nature come abt by chance (even though he says it's not chance...).

deemoo

Newborn, please check your PMs

Cheers,

Deemoo

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this evil evil wicked system of things......NOT!!!...just compare

by oompa in

wife and i had a bit of a spat about this a few weeks ago.....i blew her mind that i felt like things were so great around us........i guess i only recently understood how dubs think things are so so horrible in daworll around us........i never did...never......i loved school!!

!......damm those were good friends that i lost after graduation......dammit........i am finding a few back on facebook and such.... she and prob most dubs think all else in daworll is soooooo evil.......but damm........here in the states i can walk most of it without a care in the world......my neighbors are good people...they care for their fam and friends just like dubs do .......and do not commit crime.

i told wifey that if daworll were sooo evil there would be full prisons about every two miles!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

deemoo

Hahaha... I had an experience today that fits in. I had bible study today and I was talking about my boyfriend (who is also studying) and the study-guy says "Because your boyfriend is studying the bible, he won't do anything wrong or cheat on you."

I wasn't quick enough to reply , but in my head I was thinking... just studying the bible doesn't confer non-cheating qualities on anyone! He wouldn't cheat on me anyway! HAHA... I found it really funny that he thought that way.

Another comment from today's study was - "I'm a man, I'm not gay."

Again, my in-my-head comment was - err... gay guys are men too...

Btw... before everyone gets worried again - I, nor bf, have any intention of becoming JWs. We were just curious about their beliefs. We'll move on to other religions soon enough. We've been reading the Bhagavad Gita too.

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"Bearing Thorough Witness" book: New light about Governing Body

by kurtbethel in

they are not your leaders!.

here it is, in print, on page 110 above the picture of "the nine".. "the governing body relies on god's holy spirit for direction.

its members do not regard themselves as the leaders of jehovah's people.

deemoo

Paul was appointed directly as an Apostle by Jesus, he gave ample proof of that, even raising the dead, and yes Holy Spirit directed him, "step over into Macedonia " etc.
But for anyone to claim similar direction today,they would need to supply some proof.
love
Wobble

Great stuff there Wobble :)

Now I feel like picketing somewhere with a "I Need Proof" signboard :D

*Deemoo is swept up in forum frenzy*

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I'm sub-conciously sabotaging the best thing that ever happened to me. How do I stop?

by palmtree67 in

jw
friends

i keep doing things that disappoint him sooooo much.. .

i know why i'm doing it - i don't really think i'm worthy of his love.. .

i need to stop before he finds me completely unlovable..

deemoo

Just don't answer the phone when the ex calls :)

Or... there's nothing wrong with polite chat. If he brings up the past, just say you don't want to talk about it. Eventually, he'll probably stop calling.

Don't go meet him or anything... I found that when I met up with my ex- even for just a coffee, there was attraction (there's a reason we were together for 6 years - we would kiss goodbye, or I would hold his hand out of habit) - and then I would go back home and fight with my boyfriend about silly things because I felt guilty inside.

Talk to the current guy about it :)

Without more details, I'm just assuming things :D

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Help

by Newborn in

jw
friends

dear all,.

how do you help someone who doesn't want to live anymore?.

my cousin, who seemingly has everything, good looks, a good job, a husband and family who loves her, has absolutely no wish to go on living.

deemoo

Hey...

I can relate. I went through some pretty intense depression last year.

At that point, I had lovely supportive parents, was studying engineering at a top world ranked university, had friends I could talk to and yet, I felt worthless and wished I was dead. I felt even more worthless because I had all these things going so well for me, and yet I didn't appreciate them and so wished I was dead so someone else could get the benefits.

For me, the medication helped. The counselling didn't help that much - mostly because I felt that the counsellor didn't care. (In reality, and in hindsight, I think she did care, but was clinically detached - just like they teach you in med school)

I can't help with the WT side of things - maybe getting a counsellor who has some experience with cult mentality can help there...

But from your side, let her talk every day. You don't have to say anything to her, or even remind her of all the things she has going good... for that may just make her feel more guilty about feeling the way she does. Just let her talk to you, tell you about what is making her sad... or if she can't pinpoint what it is, then just tell you what she did in the day.

Important - encourage her to get some exercise! Go out for a walk together every day if you live in the same place. Walk kids to school. Go for a swing in the nearby playground when all the kids are at school. Do some yoga. ANY exericse, even if it just gets her out of the house for only 15 minutes, will help.

Lastly, ask her to talk to the doctor about increasing her dosage. I've been on 30mg of Citalopram for the last year. I call them my happy pills :) While the medication controls my sadness, suicidal impulses & crying bouts.... I'm working on building up a positive mindset, getting qualified in a field I love and enjoying life.

I sincerely hope she gets through this.

*hugs*

Dee