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  Amateurs Built the Ark

  by enigma1863 in

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  are you familiar with the motto "professionals built the titanic amateurs built the ark?".

  i find it somewhat annoying.

  i've been looking for a good analogy like amelia earhart was a professional pilot dorothy was just a girl from kansas but she got back home..

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  freddo

  How do we know that Noah didn't use contract-labour to help him build the Ark?
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  2015 Convention

  by wifibandit in

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  pixel, cappytan, and wifibandit present for your consideration:.

  https://youtu.be/g16_p3tncxq?list=plrw9u-n1z2m-_z5_a55vmqj1biuwnslhq.

  the saturday program will be added tomorrow, followed by the sunday program the next day..

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  Bit off topic but anyone know how baptizms are going at the 2015 regionals - up, down or about the same?
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  The Reason Why Jehovah's Witnesses Will Never Prosper Is The Children

  by minimus in

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  i believe that the religion will remain stagnant due to their achilles heel, the kids, the children, that next generation.. most of them really don't wa t to be in the religion.

  the parents may have tried everything within their power to make the kids love jehovah but we all know you can't force someone to love you and you can't make a grown person stay in a relationship or situation if they really don't want to be there..

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  What Finkelstein just said.

  And the internet is so much more accessible now. Kids in their early teens have in their hands (phones, tablets etc) instant access to the net. Ten years ago they would have had to use the family computer and looked over their shoulders.
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  If Women were elders, would it make a difference in the organization?

  by John Aquila in

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  imagine three single sisters who qualified to be appointed as elders in the congregation.

  they qualified because they started reaching out in their early teens.

  persistently and methodically they worked their way through the ranks by pioneering then becoming a m.s.

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  freddo

  We in the UK had Margaret Thatcher as Prime Minister. Not for nothing was she known - and sometimes admired - as the "Iron Lady". But in 1982 when her son got "lost" in the Dakar North African rally for 6 days did she get distressed? Oh yes.

  Denis Thatcher on the other hand was reported as saying of his son ... "he'll turn up - give him a beer and a sandwich a wash and a shave and he'll be fine."

  And he did.

  Women elders? OK until the nepotism for their own children raises it's head and then watch'em squeal.
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  Vacation Time: You want me to use my personal vacation to attend the D.C.? Something i feel is a load of B.S.and waste of my precious time

  by goingthruthemotions in

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  so you all know that my wife is still blinded....i am well awake and so are our son's.

  so she is expecting me to use my vacation time from work to attend the d.c. waste 3 days of dribble from the cult.

  what of waste of time....yet i will do it to keep the peace.

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  Yeah. A hip flask.
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  How big of a problem is apostasy.

  by joe134cd in

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  i often wonder if apostasy could be defined as the "silent problem", as the majority who leave for this reason choose to fade saying nothing.

  in all the decades i was a witness i could probably count on 2 hands those who were disfellowshipped for apostasy.i must admit it wasn't until i came on the internet that i fully realise the depth and extent of the problem.

  i think of that young girl high school speech that went viral, and you can't tell me all those 300000+ views were all none jws.

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  Over 600,000 views now ...

  About a year ago one left our hall. DA'd. No family but she let it be known she didn't agree with doctrine. Those in the know say she went apostate.

  Now as for faders one went six months ago but didn't specify why - I hear that she won't answer the door/take phone calls. It was sudden but unannounced. I suspect it might be pedo/apostasy but can't be sure. Perhaps she just got fed up waiting for Armageddy.

  When I was an elder not one DF/DA went for Apostasy - it was always unpermitted sex! (With an isolated fraud case too) Though funnily enough six with Irish connections went within two years in the early 1980's following Ray Franz and "trouble in Ireland".
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  Broadcast Parody

  by WatchtowerReviewz in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hey guys i just wanted to share my jw broadcast parody with you all.

  i think some of you may find it humorous.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-kvrqwwgnq.

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  It was so so good until the last ten seconds. Shame about that.
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  and Moses came down the mountain on his....DUCATI

  by snare&racket in

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  worst day in the last ten years, was the day i hit 0.00 with one and a half years of university to go.

  nobody to turn to, nobody to ask for help.

  i was 32 and as an ex jw had two family members in contact with me.

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  Nice one Snare ...

  Now a word from an old man who has on and off had bikes. I didn't sell mine for such a good cause but did sell one "to get married" and then again "to put money down on a house" and again "to pay for my wife to have a small car to take our first child about". I now have one again - non-descript Universal Japanese Motorcycle but at least I have one.

  Perhaps if I had got better educated and had a career path instead of dead end jobs to put Jehovah first I might have a brand new Ducati!

  But as they used to say on Hill Street Blues "Hey! Hey! Be careful out there ... "

  Don't want to hear that Snare has wrapped himself round a tree.
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  2015 Regional Conventions Baptisms

  by Gayle in

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  since this is the first weekend of rcs, anyone going that can give estimates of how many are getting baptized, how many appeared about that were jw youth, and what attendance figure is at these rcs?.

  i know u.s. baptisms are declining.

  can any keep a running report?

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  NOT REGIONAL ... but in March at the circuit special day thingamy a UK circuit where a cousin attends which divides into two half circuits to fit in the assembly hall so about 2200 but 1100 on each day - had for the half she attended zero baptisms!

  Unheard of apparently. Normally it's about 5 or 6 in each half.

  The circuit I attended had 12 last October (probably spurred on by just having had the tie in to Twickenham London in August) and only 4 this Spring. So down a bit.
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  Preparing for Governing Body 3.0? Making older GB step down? (New September Watchtower)

  by FusionTheism in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  watchtower, study edition, september 2015, "are you reaching the stature that belongs to christ?":.

  paragraph 6: the mature christian shows humility in that he recognizes that jehovahs ways and standards are always better than his own.

  [footnote: for example, older, experienced brothers may be asked to step aside from certain responsibilities and to lend support to younger brothers as they take on those responsibilities.].

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  No. The GB are pretty much insulated. This is so they can apply it as they wish elsewhere down the foodchain.

  At the moment it's CoBE's at 80 and TO's at 70. Tho' interestingly it seems a stand in CO can still be over 70.

  Also they can use "the guideline" to "kindly" kick Assembly Hall Overseers and RBC/LDC big wigs out when they feel like it.