Posts by freddo

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Bethel Meeting at Regional Convention

by MrTheocratic in

i decided to go to the bethel recruiting meeting yesterday to test out my theory that the organization is in decline.

i assumed that if there is a general feeling of apathy by many in the org, then certainly it would be shown up by the lack of enthusiasm or zeal by many to sign up for bethel service.

well let me say that based on what i observed, this organization is not going anywhere.

freddo

Yes - especially in US and UK where bigger storehouses are being built all the zealous and deluded go to Bethel and building projects. (But where they closed the Bethels and kicked them to the kerb - well tough.) It's like a long gap year lasting between a year and several years when many are burned out or booted to the kerb.

Meanwhile lots of congregations who lose these zealous and deluded have good old boys running the show and watchtower articles begging them to train up what youngsters they have left!

But this show will go on in some form or another as mentioned above - it will be about "listen-obey-be-stressed-and-depressed" - so don't hold your breath for a collapse.

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It came in today's mail

by Virgochik in

it came today, the dreaded envelope containing my personal copy of "return to jehovah" from my elderly, desperate mother.

it included a small note asking me to read it over and to let her know what i think.

she got it at her assembly.. firstly, i'm angry that she continues to push her religion on me, given that i stopped attending meetings over thirty years ago, and very offended that she assumes that i still want to be a witness, which is her choice of religion, not mine.

freddo

I wonder if a bit of you is a bit like me. I have some resentment that my parent was daft enough/self absorbed enough to become a witness. That God was going to bail them out and let them see all their dead loved ones and live forever.

And so as a kid I got swept along ...

Only it took me 40 more years to realise it was all a load of nonsense. And I feel daft too.

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The incredibly white NAACP leader

by Simon in

this is a bizarre story.. there is a woman who is the local leader of the naacp who is obviously trying to mislead people into believing she is black who is actually white.

very white.. she obviously gets a tan regularly but looks more orange.

yes, orange really is the new black!.

freddo

She has kids??? Tragedy.

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The incredibly white NAACP leader

by Simon in

this is a bizarre story.. there is a woman who is the local leader of the naacp who is obviously trying to mislead people into believing she is black who is actually white.

very white.. she obviously gets a tan regularly but looks more orange.

yes, orange really is the new black!.

freddo

She's a fruitloop plain and simple. Just be thankful she hasn't got kids. A prospective Munchausen woman if ever there was.

It's all about her. Here is my Psychobabble diagnosis.

In her twisted mind "Mommy and Daddy adopted black kids. She wants the attention they get; after all Mommy and Daddy chose them there kids but got lumbered with her..."

Dangerously twisted.

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Why don't people in the US, UK or Euro-Citizens know anything about Jehovah's Witness Pedophile Issues and lawsuits?

by MagicMItchJensen in

i know you all are aware of how little knowledge people have about jehovah's witnesses and topics men like bob bowen and women like barbara anderson tried to raise the level of public awareness that "the jehovah witness coming to your door might be a pedophile or child molester!

" what's gone wrong, has the society outsmarted the media or do people not really care what happens to young children?

if you took a survey trying to ascertain how many people walking through the grocery store, a target or upper class stores nordstroms, your going to be shocked how little people know.. if it's about the catholic church, those numbers shot through the ceiling, is this because there is no problem in the new world watchtower order or their better at damage control?

freddo

@cofty

30 years ago the usual method of dealing with a reported child abuse situation was disbelief, minimizing and if believed to be true "think of the reproach on Jehovah if this gets out" ran through all dealings.

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No shorts or printed T-shirts when making ready the stadium before the RC

by Powermetal4ever in

jw
friends

just heard the stupidest thing ever on this weeks service meeting: it was regarding the volunteers for cleaning the stadium before rc.

they are not allowed to wear shorts or printed t-shirts .but hey its summer!

its gonna be warm!

freddo

The outside of the cup must be clean, while inside ...

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My experience of christians and religion

by Doltologist in

one or two of you have noticed that i use derogatory terms when talking about matters religion.

i offer no apology.

you do, however, deserve an explanation.. my father, bless him and now dead, was a survivor of belsen, the german concentration camp.

freddo

Hello Dolt,

Assuming your father was at Bergen-Belsen because he was Jewish, why did he convert to a Christian faith?

Just wondering.

Freddo

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Very Offensive Statement Directed To JW Parents-Watchtower 4/15/2015 Page 11 Paragraph 9

by JW GoneBad in

wt is insinuating, worse yet, blaming senior jw parents for there not being more younger brothers reaching out to be ministerial servants and elders.

page 11 paragraph 9 reads as follows: .

"elders in affluent lands may face an added challenge: how to motivate baptized brothers in their 20s or 30s to get involved in congregation activities.

freddo

Yeah who are these "experienced elders" they asked?

1. Bethelites who depend on their masters for board and lodging.

2. Brown-nosers who measure spirituality by assembly platform assignments and strutting around being career christians.

GB Flunky: "So Bro. Brown-noser why do these young men in their 20's and 30's become disengaged?"

BB: (wringing hands) "because their parents didn't encourage spiritual goals." (real reasons - they see through the BS/ They want out but do enough not get booted. If their parents didn't encourage them to buy the bullshit hook line and sinker it's because they didn't get to realise the promise of petting lions in their waterside properties while feeding John the Baptist outsize fruit.)

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Why do you still give talks?

by 1tMakesNoSence in

assuming you are still sitting there because of circumstances.

why do you still give/don't give talks?i ask this because i have to give talk no.

3: love and obedience bring happinessnwt p. 26 4-6 (5 min.

freddo

Put in a sentence or two about how we must obey God's word the bible rather than man. So obviously if someone were to keep asking for us to send money for a new headquarters we might think of not building bigger store houses or that Jesus had nowhere to lay his head. We might even think of Ananias and Sapphire who were deceitful about their financial affairs and tried to look good before men.

Don't think you'd have to do any more talks after that ...

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New Thought About Active J.W.'s

by The Searcher in

from my own observations & conversations with selected active j.w.

's, here are my conclusions:.

's are very rapidly falling into two distinct camps -.

freddo

I would love to see a crumbling and withering of congs. But now with the "great expansion" of building ... I mean ... scrapping kingdom halls I think there will be amalgamating of congs. In larger towns and cities every 3 to 5 average congs can easily be made into 2 or 3 larger congs. That means less platform work for the Elders and MS's, less CO's needed. So the desperation for "brothers reaching out" is reduced in the short term.

Imagine 3 congs with a total of 20 elders - well that can be two congs with 10 in each.

The good thing is more chance for faders to go less noticed under the radar while the elders fight it out for the prominent jobs and take a while to settle in..