Posts by freddo

Cuba/Vietnam/Biafra/Cold War/Gemini and Apollo Moon Landing (Signs in the Sun and stars)/Generation that saw 1914/King of the North and South with their earth destroying nuclear missiles. Ten toes of the image of Nebuchadnezzer having the strength of iron and the fragility of clay - Student uprisings in Paris, Czech revolt (Prague Spring), Power outages and Miner's strikes in Britain. Berlin Wall coming down (here comes the peace and security!) Made sense to me.

And all those good solid elders that were forged during this time are the last bastion of the WT. How old are they now? mid - late 50's are the youngest, but more likely 60's 70's 80's and dead! (Or resigned.)

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what is the ontlogical trinity

by piledriver in

the trnity to me means the true nature of god essence,attributes each person of the trinity is equal the father the son and the holly spirit all share the devine nature ie three persons of the godhead are all equal in power ,glory and wisdom john 10:30.jesus and his father god are one meaning of the same nature mathew 28.19 jesus said all to be baptised in the name of the father and of the son and the holly ghost reprissenting 3 persons of the godhead to wellcome the devine trinity into your soul .

freddo

@cofty

Yeh! I just looked back through piledriver's posts and found that!

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what is the ontlogical trinity

by piledriver in

the trnity to me means the true nature of god essence,attributes each person of the trinity is equal the father the son and the holly spirit all share the devine nature ie three persons of the godhead are all equal in power ,glory and wisdom john 10:30.jesus and his father god are one meaning of the same nature mathew 28.19 jesus said all to be baptised in the name of the father and of the son and the holly ghost reprissenting 3 persons of the godhead to wellcome the devine trinity into your soul .

freddo

OK, I'll bite.

Try Matthew 24 v 36 and Acts 7 v 55,56.

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Coordinator of Elders Problems in One Southern England Circuit!

by The Searcher in

information just passed to me.

let's hope this becomes even more widespread.

i wonder if the britain branch suspects a conspiracy?

freddo

CoBE's in a circuit talk to each other a fair bit; here's why.

CoBE's typically also do or are involved in the circuit organising jobs - Circuit Accounts, Attendants Overseers, Assembly Hall caretaking etc. - and quite a few get used on assembly parts so go to rehearsals.

If the circuit accounts brother or the CO's brown-noser assistant paperwork cruncher (often a CoBE or Secretary) wants to communicate with all the congregations in the circuit they use email to other CoBE's, not through jdubyadotorg

So an email goes out saying - "The CO has asked me to remind you all that the circuit pioneer meeting will be at the local Assembly Hall on Julember 9th. Please let your pioneers know. Oh and share cars and bring some cakes, for brother and sister fatty to lay on refreshments." Then someone will phone up an ask for clarification and then it's "Hey Bob did you here about ... what do you reckon ...?"

They are also responsible for public talks and will talk to other CoBE's nearby to arrange them (although often an assistant is used).

Any inter-congregation issues (you know, Johnny from City North and Mary from City South are from different congregations and they've been caught shagging each other's brains out) and introductions will go CoBE to CoBE.

They are often of a certain type and they yak to each other too. I know that the Royal Australian Commission, money/finance requests and the Bethel Culls - which may effect their kids - have been great topics for conversation among the circuit heavies (CoBE's, Secretaries and other prominent elders) in my area.

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CO Comes Up With A New Way To Be Judgemental...

by JW_Rogue in

at the latest co visit something very strange happened.

during the meeting with the elders and servants he passed out a copy of a hypothetical publisher card and asked us what we could learn from it.

upon receiving it i saw that the average hours were pretty good, it had return visits and quite a few bible studies.

freddo

So hardworking dad studies with his wife and son and goes in the mins on a Saturday and reports 8-10 hours. Really good guy, steady and sensible. Perfect MS/Elder material.

But oh dear, young Johnny has just got baptised - good you say? But no! Because now Dad and Mrs. Dad can't count their family study time anymore so Dad's hours go from 9 down to 5 and Mrs. Dad's drop from 8 to 4!

Oh no - now they are in the crappy useless range and the CO will wonder if Dad can run a microphone anymore?

And yet they are doing exactly the same hours and study as they did before - but Johnny's baptised, dad can't count the time - hallelujah!

Crazy rule ridden cult.

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Where are you from?

by BeautifulMind in

jw
friends

i know we are all anonymous for our own personal reasons, so i understand if you would rather not say.

but if you don't mind sharing that would be cool.

i currently live in georgia, usa.

freddo

Southern half of the UK.

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Taking bets on how long this cult will last and what will happen to it

by macys in

i wanna make a poll here.

how many years do you think the jdub cult will exist as is and what will happen to it?.

i say the growth stops this year and starts to decline.

freddo

I dunno slimboy,

The memorial attendance has hovered around 20 mil for the past 5 years. I really believe 2015/16 (if figures aren't massaged) will show peak publishers give or take 1% for the next few years. I would be surprised if the peak goes beyond 8.5 million unless they go mainstream - as in stopping the shunning.

Their baptisms are down on the peaks of 300K a year they reached at one point.

If it wasn't for western medicine and the drop in smoking worldwide they would have lost a lot more old ones by now, but they can't live forever! (Pun intended)

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Lets start a "Go Fund Me" for those special pioneers being kicked to the curb by the GB,.

by notjustyet in

lots of great potential to help those sp that are being sent off without any financial help from the wtbts.

i think that it would be a great way to get some exposure on this topic and how the wtbts thats those that dedicated their lives to the wtbts only to be sent packing at a late age.

then someone can take the funds to one sp couple, possibly, and give it to them in honor of the apostates that know what is really happening.

freddo

If we know of someone personally - whether we are in or not why not send this anonymous note with a ten buck bill attached.

"Dear Special Pioneer couple/Booted Bethelite.

I am an anonymous Jehovah's Witness/ex-Jehovah's Witness/inactive witness who loathes how the Governing Body have gone against the scripture in Luke 14:28. Please find enclosed ten pounds/bucks, I heard you were kicked to the curb.

I hate what the Watchtower leaders have done to you - did you notice in the February broadcast at the 11 minute mark Brother Herd's clunking great Rolex watch?

Don't go preaching but "provide for your own" and build up a fund for your old age in case the new overlapping generation doctrine is as false as the last ones.

Don't stand next to a literature cart wasting even more of your precious lives. Just look after the widows and orphans if you have spare time after providing for your own needs.

Yours truly,"

"Oh, and P.S. - look out for child abuse lawsuits, perhaps that's where all the money is going? That and the Wallkill vanity project for the Governing Body's lakeside retirement complex."