Posts by freddo

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Leaving the JWs

by Hurting in

i am 32 years and have recently left the organisation.

i got baptised in last feb. please excuse any typing errors i have dyslexia.

it has been so hard this year i have gone through so many ups and downs.

As an ex elder and long time jw (50 years plus if you count childhood) I have come across many strange characters, vulnerable people even crazy and twisted people within the walls of the Kingdom Hall.

But the description of how your twisted and crazy mother treated you kids is up there with the worst. I dread to think what happened in her life to make her such an awful parent.

I mean getting sisters to come round and beat you? Am I reading that right? Sounds almost (but not quite) like the lovely "Eunice Spry" from Gloucestershire, England who was able to hide her wickedness form other jw's and "worldly" authorities for so long.

She's even got her own wikipedia page bless her ...

Anyway I've gone on a rant. I am sorry and I would like to say you are very brave posting here and we on this forum wish you all the very best in your future life.

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I can't just walk away, I need to keep reinforcing what I did was right (Leaving the org)

by pleaseresearch in

when i speak to my mum about things, she says why do you keep looking on the internet and news etc... why don't you just live your life and forget what you learned growing up.. maybe i was so so indoctrinated as a child that even though i have woken up and learnt ttatt, i still need to keep up to date with new findings from ex and fellow brothers and sisters.

listening to their testimony about why they left.. this was to me and all of you i'm sure, the truth.

so to finally wake up is absolutely massive.

freddo

I'm with you on this - seeking reassurance that I had it right (as in it's all false) in becoming "mentally out" is still good for me.

I reckon the thing that "did it" for me was the 1995 generation change. I didn't do anything then but looking back that was my "they just keep on moving the goalposts when they run out of time like they did in '75" moment.

It probably took me until about 2002/3 and going on the evil internet to realise something was really wrong and that there were others in the U.S./U.K/NZ/Aus/Canada etc. that felt and had similar experiences to me.

BBC's "Panorama" and the child abuse episode where in the UK they (the org) stopped the Watchtower half an hour early and read a letter of pathetic self-justification just accelerated the pace.

I was dumb enough to "try harder" thinking I could make a difference as an elder but then not long after I resigned.

I was quite vocal for a while but could feel the responses which made me realise that if I wanted to keep a relationship with family and friends I would have to work smart and play the long game.

This year has been better - what with jwborgtv, the ARC and "money grabbing" - and I have been more vocal again and this time I really don't care where it ends up.

I have one serving elder who I can say anything to, who is quite "in" but doesn't tell on me - an ex MS who laughs at the crazy antics of the gb with me and another ex MS who is very agitated at the way things are going and we can have very long discussions about how bad jw'ism has got.

Unfortunately my wife cannot let go - but on the upside she knows how I feel and doesn't tell on me either.

Slowly slowly ... but mentally it's great being free and has been for a few years now.

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genuine english guy seeking jw lady

by english_gentleman in

hi, i believe that a lady is put on earth to satisfy the needs of her partner and respect his views in all matters.. i realize some here may consider that old fashioned and not based on sexual equality.. yet a lady and man are not created equal because the lady gives birth and the man must sire many children.

if you are a lady under 30 and keen to meet me, willing to cook and breed, then please message me here.

please do not contact me if you disagree with my views, we can agree to differ.

freddo

There will be a queue a mile long. Who could resist?

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Only a few days ago I was entirely lost and without hope the rug was pulled out from under me

by elderess in

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only a few days ago i was walking around the house in a mindless wander thinking if i needed to seek professional help.

then i got the courage to seek the comfort of complete strangers on the internet and found a world of support here on this website.

thank you simon and whoever else has made this website possible.

freddo

Fantastic news. Just. Fantastic. News.

Please bear in mind that even your kids may "turn you in" so please go slowly and carefully.

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Music Video: Would Jesus Wear a Rolex on JW Broadcasting? - PARODY

by cappytan in

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this took quite a while this evening.

so worth it though.

hope you enjoy!

freddo

Bump!

I love this parody - for anyone that missed it - it is brilliant. But read the WT 15th Aug 1994 page 11 paragraph 3 as well.

The Society actually quote the lyrics of the song! Hypocrisy at its best.

Please pass this on to anyone you know - even anonymously if you need to.

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5 years since I attended a kingdom hall meeting, feels so good!

by Joliette in

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well, i'm 25% there, but i can't put in words how good i feel!!!!!!!!!

once i move to a different city i'll have this travesty of a religion out of my system, i'll be at 100%.

two more years, i'm 33 years old and more excited then ever.

freddo

Why do you "only" rate yourself as 25% out and needing another two years for 100%? Given you were never baptised and haven't been in service since 2004 I mean?

As for the mind control, with me that part of me is 100% mentally out. It's only disentangling family and the hope of freeing them and others that keeps me (bodily) there.

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Aliens exist and YHWH (Jehovah) was one of them.

by Jehovah Was An Alien in

"the constellation of the seven stars forming the pleiades appears to be the crowning centre around which the known system of the planets revolve even as our suns planet obey the sun and travel in their respective orbits.

it has been suggested, and with much weight, that one of the stars of that group is the dwelling place of jehovah and the place of the highest heavens; that is the place to which the inspired writer referred to when he said: "hear thou from thy dwelling place, even from heaven" (2 chronicles6:21) ; and that it is the place to which job referred when under inspiration he wrote: "canst thou blind the sweet influences of pleiades, or loose the bands of orion" – job 38:31"

the constellation of the pleiades is a small one compared with others which scientific instruments disclose to the wondering eyes of man.

freddo

Errrr ... is the OP just being ironic?

I didn't take his post to be what he really believes.

But then, I'm English not American!

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How to spot faders or "closeted" apostates in a congregation / meeting?

by nevaagain in

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so i am awoken for several years now (never really bought the cool aid) but for family reasons i am still enduring everything.

but my wife knows ... .

anyway so yesterday we had this boring meeting and as i was sitting there trying to make time pass faster i looked around me and i thought who else feels the same as me and is completely bored?

freddo

Own Lyrics.

"Kiss my bum lest god be angry ..."

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Could we ever see a GB member disassociate?

by pleaseresearch in

we saw it with raymond franz.

but do you think we could ever see one of the current gb members or future ones, make the same choice?.

to leave, and expose it..

freddo

I say no.

But then in May 1941 Rudolph Hess flew away from Nazi Germany when it was right at the peak of its power.

I don't suppose we'll ever fully know why.

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How did you feel when they eliminated the Con. Book Study?

by Freeandclear in

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years ago when i was "in" i loved the book study.

it was my favorite meeting by far.

mainly because it was a small group.

freddo

It was a relief to have another "free" evening where I didn't have to put on a tie and go out for the evening and up until about 2004 when I was still an elder I was always a book study group overseer so that made it even worse.

Given the choice I would rather have kept a one hour study in someone's home and dropped the midweek meeting at the KH.