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  November broadcast makes thier strategy clear.

  by Crazyguy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  thier talk at this summers district conventions about shunning faders was a bit unclear and many said it was pointing out that only jws were to shun wrongdoers not specifically faders.

  this new broadcast makes it now obvious that those who leave the meetings have left jehovah so therefore they are to be shunned as a form of discipline.

  there can be no mistake that they do not want any of thier cult members associating with faders or those that have left the cult.

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  freddo

  @Crazyguy

  You missed a bit I think. Watch the clip again. There is an announcement that he (the son) is no longer a jw. That's the modern hip way of saying DFD or DA'D in jw land.
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  November JW broadcast is up, this time on not telling the truth, shunning

  by bohm in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  november broadcast is up:.

  https://www.jw.org/download/?fileformat=mp4&output=html&pub=jwb&issue=201611.

  we learn interesting things.

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  Jaydubyaborg FAQ paints a less than truthful view too.

  Do Jehovah's Witnesses Shun Former Members of Their Religion?

  "What of a man who is disfellowshipped but whose wife and children are still Jehovah's Witnesses? The religious ties he had with his family change, but blood ties remain. The marriage relationship and normal family affections and dealings continue."

  Filthy liars. When those children reach the age of majority the shunning is expected to commence! (If not before)

  ...

  And as for "Round the Corner" tra-la-tra-la! Round the bend more like!
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  November JW broadcast is up, this time on not telling the truth, shunning

  by bohm in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  november broadcast is up:.

  https://www.jw.org/download/?fileformat=mp4&output=html&pub=jwb&issue=201611.

  we learn interesting things.

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  freddo

  Love the way the parents mope around - it's all about them isn't it?

  Also notice how the GB try to sanitize it all by having the lad walking out (or the Swedish girl at the summer assembly) not being chucked out as is what the GB really want to happen.

  I'm glad the bastards put the rejected phone call in. And the 5 years and no return.

  As the above posters wrote - they are in a downward spiral and desperate.

  140 years of "round the corner". Utter bollocks.

  Oh yeah! "Truthful" Loesch - isn't he the one who runs away from the Superior Authorities and hides behind evasive statements presented to court about a child abuse case?
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  Can a Person Resign From Being One of Jehovah’s Witnesses?

  by UnshackleTheChains in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  how many witnesses are aware that technically, according to watchtower policy, they can if they wish too...associate with dissociated and disfellowshipped relatives.

  for all those who are dissociated or disfellowshipped, please share this with your relatives who are currently shunning you.

  there is nothing the elders can do as long as they are not discussing spiritual matters.

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  freddo

  Yebbut they have their little catch all of "brazen conduct" and "causing divisions" to layer on top when they make their decision and are then called upon to justify it.

  As in it may not be a JC offence of itself but it is causing divisions in the congregation and they are being brazen about it.

  The CO will back them to the hilt saying he will not overrule what is a question of judgement.
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  Help with fading, please...

  by longgone in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i just left about six months ago and i'm going through the emotional whirlwind that comes with it.

  i would really appreciate some advice on how to keep this fade from turning into my being disfellowshipped.

  i'm another born in, third generation.

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  longgone

  I think scratchme's advice would be good before you've done what you've done. But not now - returning to the vomit you have left behind now will increase your anxiety levels and put you in the path of the lunatic pioneer sister once again. Run Forrest Run! Pour your feelings out to those who know the score in your family and on here.

  I was an elder for over 25 years. I've done scores of judicial and appeal committees and had different pathetic titles over the years including PO/WT/Secretary. You cannot be DFD for telling an elder to leave you alone. However strongly. You cannot be DFD for taking out a restraining order. Do you need a restraining order? Just shut the door on her and don't take her phone calls. Forever.

  Use this stupid sister and her stalking of you to your advantage. Ignore every attempt by any elder to engage you in conversation. Firmly tell them to leave you alone.

  USE REVERSE THEOCRATIC WARFARE.

  When JW hierarchy are dragged in front of courts (like the ARC investigation into their disgusting child abuse record) they lie like a rug and in their literature equate such behaviour with Rahab and the spies and hiding printing presses from the Nazis.

  Learn to lie to them without feeling guilty. Rahab protected the spies AND HER FAMILY. You are protecting your sanity and your family relationships from the mind controlled cultists that will throw you under the locomotive in their service not to God but to the GB and its Golden Calf jwdotborg!

  Rant over!
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  Help with fading, please...

  by longgone in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i just left about six months ago and i'm going through the emotional whirlwind that comes with it.

  i would really appreciate some advice on how to keep this fade from turning into my being disfellowshipped.

  i'm another born in, third generation.

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  Adding to Smiddy and taking it up a notch.

  "They" use "theocratic warfare". Toole, O'Brien and Jackson in front of the ARC. Real organisation heavyweights covering up, prevaricating and lying. And why? To hide their dollars, to keep their board and lodging, to remain in power when being legitimately asked - under oath, having sworn on their bibles - about their disgusting response to child abuse allegations.

  Can they get any lower?

  Read 1 Peter 2 v 12 - 17 and tell me it doesn't condemn this lying filthy corrupt organisation.

  So now they act like the Stasi in East Germany did (Not all individual JW's, but the top dogs) and you're the one protecting your sanity and family relationships by any means. Do not feel one ounce of guilt by lying through your teeth to them when they try to get you with their unscriptural twisting of truth.
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  KH for sale--Ryde --isle of Wight--UK

  by stan livedeath in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  sheer joy.. the local kingdumb hall is up for sale.

  a quick build from 1984. i went in there once--for a relative's wedding.

  half a million pounds.. http://www.rightmove.co.uk/commercial-property-for-sale/property-44198850.html.

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  Good news.

  I had a nose on Jborg which indicates 3 halls and 5 congs on the whole of the Isle of Wight, including Ryde (as of early Nov 2016).

  Looking on Jborg it still shows the hall being used but by only one cong. Do you know if the cong is being disbanded or moved as a whole congregation to one of the nearby halls? Both of which appear to have two congs in each at present.
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  GB "... it can make mistakes when explaining the Bible ..." Simplified version WT Feb 2017

  by freddo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  study article: who is leading god's people today?

  start of paragraph 12.. standard version: "the governing body is neither inspired nor infallible.

  therefore, it can err in doctrinal matters or in organizational direction.".

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  Study Article: Who is Leading God's People Today? Start of paragraph 12.

  Standard version: "The Governing Body is neither inspired nor infallible. Therefore, it can err in doctrinal matters or in organizational direction."

  Simplified version: "The Governing Body is neither inspired nor perfect. It can make mistakes when explaining the Bible or directing the organization."

  Even clearer? Even more forthright?

  An equally good quotation to have in mind?
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  Jehovah's Witnesses DO break up families

  by UnshackleTheChains in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this recording was the final straw for me.

  https://youtu.be/ks2ld6pjybo.

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  freddo

  That is so powerful Unshackle - especially 15:00 onwards.

  She tearfully and emotionally and oh so lucidly ... tells any listener the nature of this Pharisaical little cult.

  Do you know her and how she is doing?
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  More bad news for the Organisation in Australia

  by no-zombie in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  it appears the the commonwealth government is bringing in a national compensation scheme for victims of institutional child sexual abuse with individuals able to claim up to $150,000 each.

  it's clear that the australian government will not be able to fund this program without serious money from the offending churches.

  so it's bad news for the organization today.. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-11-04/government-announces-redress-for-abuse-victims/7996092.

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  @No longer a Babe

  Terrence O'Brien's nightly prayer.

  DearheavenlyfatherJehovahGodourGrandCreator ...

  Please, please, please bring Armageddy soon, very soon, like right now!!!!

  ThrutheonewhomadeallthingspossibleourLordandRedeemerJesusChristAmen.