Posts by freddo

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New Cringe Worthy Music Video From July Broadcast

by JW_Rogue in

the song is supposedly about marveling at god's creation but instead includes over the top adoration of the elders, conventions, and family worship.

lol getting a brother who sounds like a wannabe josh groban only adds to the cheesiness.

https://youtu.be/tzxf25gvs_m.

Brother & Sisters, Aunts and Uncles.....husband and wife

by menrov in

was just thinking about the practice in wt (and i believe some other religions as well) to call your fellow female (baptized) jw a sister, a brother if it is a man.

children call older people aunt or uncle.

so, at home, i can call my wife by her first name etc.

freddo

In the UK.

The only time brother and sister are used is (e.g) when asking the Q's like during the WT study or when the school overseer (CLAM overseer nowadays) announces you up to the platform or gives counsel.

Occasionally if for example the visiting speaker (e.g C.O.) wasn't known to you and you were chairman and went up to address him to ask if he would like a glass of water or offer expenses or if he was okay to close in prayer you might address him as Brother _________ especially if you were a young MS acting as chairman.

Children - in their own KH they call older ones Uncle or Auntie (first name) as a mark of respect. With the aged they may even continue this into their late teens or even their early 20's.

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Getting your WT files deleted (UK)

by Splash in

the uk are tightening up their data protection laws to make it easier for individuals to get hold of the information organisations hold on them and to get it deleted.. i think paul grundy (jwfacts) went through this with wt once and found it very time consuming and difficult.. will wt now abide by the law and hand over or permanently delete the records it keeps when requested?it would mean every uk exjw could have their report card info, personal file with age, sex, baptism date, judicial information, appointment/deletion/disfellowshipping dates, letters of disassociation, letters of recommendation when you move, phone number and address permanently removed.

anyone acting for the wt (elders) who retain this information, eg your phone number in their phone or the secretary keeping your historical monthly report details, will be in violation.

failure to comply will incur a fine.. expect a letter to all boe's any time soon explaining why this does not apply to them.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-40826062.

freddo

I would happily pay the £10 as I wouldn't view it as a donation but as a reasonable charge for the time and materials taken to produce the stuff.

I believe but cannot be certain that you will get your stuff but that any reference to anyone else will be redacted. Here's a tongue in cheek example ...

Original letter from your elders to the branch ...

Bro. Emperor admitted acts of porneia with Sister Lucy Nuff and Sister Lilo Lil. This was done as a "threesome" for which we asked complete details so as to determine the low sink of debauchery that Bro. Emperor sank.

We have also included by way of a copy of this correspondence the Judicial Committee of the "Outer Fumbuck" congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses where these sisters were serving until the outcome of their recent judicial meetings conducted by Bros Dick Thasher, Moe Lester and Phil McAvity.

Bro. Emperor does not appear to show fruits befitting repentance and we uphold the decision of the original committee but we are mightily jealous as Sister Lucy Nuff is gorgeous and Sister Lilo Lil has a body to die for.

We remain your brothers,

Joe Kerr, Ben Dover and Mike Litterus

Redacted version ...

Bro. Emperor admitted acts of porneia with [Redacted]and [Redacted]. This was done as a "threesome" for which we asked complete details so as to determine the low sink of debauchery that Bro. Emperor sank.

We have also included by way of a copy of this correspondence the Judicial Committee of the [Redacted] congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses where these sisters were serving until the outcome of their recent judicial meetings conducted by Bros [Redacted x 3].

Bro. Emperor does not appear to show fruits befitting repentance and we uphold the decision of the original committee but we are mightily jealous as [Redacted] is gorgeous and [Redacted] has a body to die for.

We remain your brothers,

[Redacted x 3]

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How much time have you ever spent on Jw.org ?

by Chook in

i'm proud to say no greater than ten minutes in my whole life.

and i'm not giving them any more.

i do look at the video posts on here with their latest bullshit but being entertained by these clowns longer than necessary is unproductive..

freddo

My main source of JW doctrine is a 2014 CD-ROM which I believe was the last one that doesn't get "updated". So I only use jwborg if I need to check what they are saying in more recent stuff.

I rarely use jborg - usually only use it to compare things I "know" were taught back in the day and which they spin and lie about now.

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Post Convention Euphoria

by Phoebe in

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there is a plethora of convention photos on my instagram this morning.

(a lot of my jw friends have forgotten i'm on their followers list) .

smiling faces standing next to convention posters with comments like 'nope, i'm not giving up.

freddo

Glad you were entertained DY. Were your ears tickled in the process?

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Quotes: "Since 1914 and 1918 enemies have become more vicious"

by TheWonderofYou in

this is a proof for 1914!.

enemies, .

https://archive.org/stream/enemiesbyjudgerutherford1937/1937-enemies#page/n11/mode/1up.

freddo

Judges chapters 19 through 21 tells me differently.

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Todays WT, study with worldy kids if you can

by purrpurr in

according to today's wt, jws are now encouraged to start bible studys with worldy kids even if their parents dont want to join in.

the wt suggests that the study should take place with the parent present or with another mature jw present.. the wt suggests that studying with the kid may make the parent eventually want a study too.. ...

in what situation would any worldly parent allow some stranger from a werid cult to come jnto their house and convert their children?

freddo

Sometimes you get a parent DF'd but who mentally believes it all.

I remember as an elder being in this situation where the mother of two teenagers had enough of her thick, sometimes physically abusive JW husband and she not only left him, she had an affair with a non-jw guy she knew and basically said "I know it's wrong but I'm moving in with him and I know you will have to DF me."

Anyway we agreed with her (as a jw elder would!) and DF'd her and she had the kids living with her and the husband disappeared off under the radar before we could deal with his abusiveness.

But terms were cordial with the mother and she wanted her kids to go to meetings and have a study which we set up. Long term result?

Mother - still out with no intention of returning

Abusive husband - gone of into the sunset - officially inactive and not returning

Kid 1 - Got baptised then df'd in mid twenties - out and no intention of returning.

Kid 2 - uber pioneer sister

The crazy world of JW-land of which I was an obedient brainwashed pawn ...

Edit ... just read your post "FedUp" - brilliant!

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Need some research help

by JeffT in

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so i'm working on another (fictional) book project and i need some historical help.

i came into the borg in 1973, just as they were starting the new elder arrangement.

i know that before that there was a presiding overseer who (as i understand it) ran the show.

freddo

As you know a young adult JW in the late 1960's would be looking forward to 1975 and would not expect to have any career in this old system of things which would shortly end.

If he was a keen JW he might have been a Regular Pioneer aiming to put 100 hours a month into field ministry or he might be a Vacation Pioneer (now auxiliary pioneer) aiming to put 75 hours in any given month.

But Vienne says it best.

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Motivation for the cart work?

by careful in

could the experience related on p. 6 of the 2009 "bearing thorough witness" about god's kingdom book (the so-called acts commentary) be a motivation for the cart work?

it relates: .

"in the far north, witnesses in alaska take advantage of a unique opportunity to preach during the summer tourist season.

freddo

Anyone in the UK standing at the dockside smiling alluringly could end up in big trouble.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/staticarchive/82fcfa7f698183e0a59878bcf071799c63d63967.jpg

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Is There Anywhere To Go for an Outed JW elder/pedophile enabler?

by mrmagic in

since the australian royal commission, a lot of jw elders have been outed for either being pedophiles/molesters or for enabling it.

the jw elders who enabled it, are publicly outed to their community online and offline.

it's become a congregational matter with the entire kingdom hall and someone said that this elder would lose his eldership possibly, due to it "being known in the congregation and community" that he enabled child sexual abuse.

freddo

As you know darkspilver - standard jw procedure when there is an appeal committee is to have the original committee sat in the same room.

Procedure AFAIK is -

Local Elders initiate contact to CO - "We have a decision appealed."

CO - "I'll send three brothers."

Bigger cases.

CO to Branch "Got a tough one here boys whad'll I do?"

Branch - "We'll sort it and arrange a "Special Committee."

In either case the original elders initiate contact up the food chain.