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  How big a deal is the royal commission..? It seems to be not much...

  by _Morpheus in

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  my understanding (very limited and maybe flawed) is that this commission has no teeth.

  if thats true why would the org care?

  send a few lawyers, go through the motions but in the end.... its a dog parking on a porch.

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  freddo

  Top explanation Joe Grundy.
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  Can disassociated ones get reinstated without proving repentance?

  by maksutov in

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  2. beliefs

  one of the jw high-ups questioned by the australian royal commission (i think it was o'brien) stated that those who had disassociated (as opposed to being disfellowshipped) do not have to undergo a lengthy reinstatement procedure of proving repentance over many months, but can simply ask to be reinstated immediately.

  is this true?

  has anyone heard of this ever happening?.

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  freddo

  I winced at his testimony about that. Theocratic warfare at its finest.
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  Won't get fooled again ...Moon Landing.

  by The Rebel in

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  so i was fooled by the witnesses.

  what can i learn from that?

  not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.

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  freddo

  I saw the landings on British TV as a kid - allowed to stay up very late because it was early hours of the morning here.

  It wasn't until the excellent "Capricorn 1" in the late 70's about faked Mars landings that anyone started on about faked moon landings.
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  I'm not sure........I listened carefully to Justice McClellan, he said until Friday......

  by umbertoecho in

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  2. scandals

  however, it may be that they are trying to find jackson and see if he will come in to assist.

  it has been said on a wt friendly news site, that jackson has declined.

  i don't know what this means in terms of what the rc will decide to do.

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  freddo

  No it's over for the time being. (Save for the possible appearance of GJ)

  You probably were thinking of when Justice McClellan on Wednesday July 29th adjourned until Friday July 31st.

  I'll miss it. But then again I need to wash the car and do some chores.
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  Hello Again

  by spoils_useful_habits in

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  2. friends

  hi everyone, i joined this site 9 years ago, posted a few times but decided i just didn't want anything to do with the jw's anymore including perusing exjw sites.

  i felt that i just had to completely "detox" myself from this religion, not even talking about how much disgust i had for it.

  it did a wonder of good.......but, i recently came across an article about the australian child abuse cases and started to see what was happening with that, which got me here again.

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  freddo

  Excuse me butting in but to you who have left and got on with your lives - it would be most helpful to post your experiences since leaving as it will reassure the thousands trying to muster up courage to jump ship.
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  Question for those still attending...is anyone talking?

  by ToesUp in

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  we haven't been to a meeting or jw event in several years.

  we have been following the rc closely.

  it is fascinating!

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  freddo

  Any Aussies on here hearing anything?
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  Branch Service Department Manual approves appointing Child molestors as Elders

  by stuckinamovement in

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  http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/downloadfile.ashx?guid=7ba22716-556c-43c2-9fc6-76697afad440&type=exhibit&filename=wat.0001.004.0076&fileextension=pdf

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  freddo

  I've tried to get to listen to all the commission but I don't recall the excellent Mr. Stewart grilling any top brass jw's about reappointing a molester to be an elder and referring to this manual.

  Can anyone point me to such an exchange or if not can someone offer to the commission the possible benefit of such an exchange based on this damning evidence?
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  Questions Regarding All Those Lawyers

  by Magwitch in

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  2. child-abuse

  apologies if this has been addressed elsewhere.. has every elder called to the stand had his own personal attorney?

  it certainly appears this way.

  if this is the case, how are they able to afford this?

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  freddo

  Don't the WT legal team speak for them?
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  Royal Commission Live Hearing Now

  by LostinJapan in

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  2. child-abuse

  wednesday 5 , day 7 live hearing.

  case study 29, july 2015, sydney.

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  freddo

  Bet today's "Wednesday Governing Body Meeting" will be fun!
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  Royal Commission Live Hearing Now

  by LostinJapan in

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  2. child-abuse

  wednesday 5 , day 7 live hearing.

  case study 29, july 2015, sydney.

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  freddo

  Sadly he'll probably be on the next plane out. And although we won't see him on the stand. We will know that he has cut and run. No different from the trolley dollies packing up after being asked a tough question on the street corner.

  Shame they can't prevent him leaving the country. Or can they? Will they.