Posts by freddo

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Just read this on JW Talk......

by WHATSGOINGON in

just saw this on the public area of jwtalk (i am not a member).

here is the link.. http://jwtalk.net/forums/topic/23523-privvy-news/.

such a shame - i do feel for these ones - i just don't know what to say.... wgo.

freddo

Sister Bea wrote:-

"And as a CO said, if we die between now and Armageddon, there is not a period at the end of the sentence, but a coma."

I think she meant to write "comma" but either will do!

It is truly sad and yes there are some in my hall that are exactly that deluded and hanging on to every little word. One said to me she was so concerned about the poor bethelites and special pioneers being told to leave and when I said "yes it must be tough expecting to be looked after for life and asked to go in your fifties or sixties" she quickly came out with "well it's a sign that we are so close to the end isn't it?"

When I didn't reply she desperately said "Oh please tell me it is?"

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No longer wanting to attend meetings

by breezy in

hello everyone.. first post here.

long time follower of this website, probably 4 years now.

i've known about ttatt since ive been 18, im now 22 going on 23 but still go to meetings because of parents.

freddo

Welcome breezy. I think you've done rather well to stay unbaptised at the age of 22 and have communication with other jw's. Often you will be at least thought of as weak or be avoided for reaching such a grand old age without taking the dip that leads to shunning on exit!

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No 'Tight Pants' policy is now official - classed as 'disturbing'

by wizzstick in

in short:- tight pants is no longer just a am3 hang up (or is that a hang up on the well hung?

)- brothers who have effeminate body language are flagged up- as are sisters with 'masculine' hair styles or dress- such dress is 'disturbing to the congregation'- the above must heed the (repeated) counsel from the elders...or they get stripped of the right to share on the ministry- however...this will not be revealed (announced) to the congregation.

wow.

freddo

They don't need anything in writing about dress and grooming to decide who goes to Bethel or not. Just having a beard illustrates that.

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Today's watchtower: obey us, no matter what

by Tornintwo in

today's watchtower:.

obey us, obey us even when it seems strange, obeying our man made hierarchy equates to obeying god, sacrifice your own interests, work for us, don't be independent, put your own interests aside, obey some more, preach for us, build for us, enjoy it, obey some more, forgive when we are jerks to you and mistreat you, accept your changed assignment even if it seems cruel and doesn't make sense, don't complain if we move you (eg.

) because you might have to move in the new world, remember you are being trained to obey, remember to put your own interests aside, that's the way we are designed to live - it will only make you happy!

freddo

And if you want your loved ones to get resurrected and your name is Zinnia Zunderblast you can wait a bit longer than if your name is Anthony A. Aardvark because it's all got to take place decently and by arrangement.

So why not alphabetically?

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UPDATE on moving in with 4 guys

by Terry in

living with 4 other guys.

"good morning, richard!

richard is almost never in the house.

freddo

You certainly look a healthy guy - especially for 68. Hats off to you.

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No 'Tight Pants' policy is now official - classed as 'disturbing'

by wizzstick in

in short:- tight pants is no longer just a am3 hang up (or is that a hang up on the well hung?

)- brothers who have effeminate body language are flagged up- as are sisters with 'masculine' hair styles or dress- such dress is 'disturbing to the congregation'- the above must heed the (repeated) counsel from the elders...or they get stripped of the right to share on the ministry- however...this will not be revealed (announced) to the congregation.

wow.

freddo

Elder to keen MS: "... so don't dress like a girl okay? Be more manly."

Keen MS: "Okay. Thank you for the counsel."

Next week at the hall.

Elder to keen MS: "... shave that beard off now."

Not quite so keen MS. "I'm trying not to be effeminate and to be more manly. Is there no pleasing you?"

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Great Evening....

by Lee Elder in

jw
friends

...with dick and helen kelly.

got to meet joe and barbara anderson and their friend joy on their whirlwind u.s. tour.

wonderful conversation and opportunity to reminisce about our wts experiences and our plans for the future.

freddo

Lee Elder does his level best to change the WT Blood policies from the inside.

Barbara Anderson highlights the rotten child abuse record of WT, having been at bethel for decades and is now out.

They both run excellent websites. JW's for Reform on Blood (AJWRB) and Watchtower Documents.

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Elders are Complicit with WT Society in Child Abuse Scandals- Gonzalo Campos Case

by flipper in

of course, most of us realize this.

however sometimes even on this board sometimes threads have stated that the jw elders have been occasionally painted as the " fall guys " who take the rap for the wt society leaders - which of course is true - to a degree.

however- that being said , many times elders have failed to protect - or even have failed to advocate for child abuse victims when it has been within their power to do so.

freddo

Ah ... the G.B. They blanch at the thought of all those poor children that have been molested or put in danger ... oops I mean ... the thought of losing hundreds of millions of dollars.

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Jehovah’s Witness jailed for sexual activity with a child

by LevelThePlayingField in

source: http://stratfordobserver.co.uk/news/jehovahs-witness-jailed-for-sexual-activity-with-a-child-8997/.

a jehovahs witness from stratford who took part in sexual activity with a 15-year-old girl has been struggling with those demons for the last seven or eight years, a judge has heard.. but pleas for craig allen, who was said to have support from the jehovahs witness congregation, not to be jailed cut no ice with a judge at warwick crown court.. the 43 year-old of evesham road, dodwell, was jailed for two years and eight months and ordered to register as a sex offender for life after he pleaded guilty to two charges of sexual activity with a child.. prosecutor andrew wallace said allen had met the girl in the mid-2000s through the church.. the girl, now a young woman in her 20s, said she began to fancy allen, who had started to pay her compliments.. then on one occasion when he gave her a lift, despite being fully aware she was only 15, allen sexually touched her.. she did not object or tell anyone what had happened, and there were further consensual incidents between them, including various types of sexual activity but not full intercourse.. someone who suspected what was going on between allen, a family man in his 30s, and the girl said something to her mother.. but when she challenged both her daughter and allen about what she had heard, they both denied it.. things stopped after the girl began to feel guilty about what was happening, and she eventually decided to come forward last year and contacted the police.. she said she had been dramatically affected by what had gone on, and that what happened with allen caused her to suffer a breakdown and still haunted her.. when allen was questioned by the police he accepted the incidents had taken place, but claimed it was the girl who had taken the lead.. elizabeth power, defending, said allen, who has a son and a daughter who were now both in their 20s, had attended for a voluntary interview with the police and made admissions.. he did not force himself on her but he was the adult and she was a child.

he says he was weak and was attracted to her.

freddo

No warehouse - over here if the male had been 16 or 17 it is unlikely there would have been a court case. If 18 or 19 then a much lighter sentence, certainly no jail term but a re-education program.

This is because UK law gives discretion to judges and can see the difference between a sex act committed by a just legally adult teenager and a mature man whose sexual switch isn't functioning right.

Unlike you it would seem.

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Jehovah’s Witness jailed for sexual activity with a child

by LevelThePlayingField in

source: http://stratfordobserver.co.uk/news/jehovahs-witness-jailed-for-sexual-activity-with-a-child-8997/.

a jehovahs witness from stratford who took part in sexual activity with a 15-year-old girl has been struggling with those demons for the last seven or eight years, a judge has heard.. but pleas for craig allen, who was said to have support from the jehovahs witness congregation, not to be jailed cut no ice with a judge at warwick crown court.. the 43 year-old of evesham road, dodwell, was jailed for two years and eight months and ordered to register as a sex offender for life after he pleaded guilty to two charges of sexual activity with a child.. prosecutor andrew wallace said allen had met the girl in the mid-2000s through the church.. the girl, now a young woman in her 20s, said she began to fancy allen, who had started to pay her compliments.. then on one occasion when he gave her a lift, despite being fully aware she was only 15, allen sexually touched her.. she did not object or tell anyone what had happened, and there were further consensual incidents between them, including various types of sexual activity but not full intercourse.. someone who suspected what was going on between allen, a family man in his 30s, and the girl said something to her mother.. but when she challenged both her daughter and allen about what she had heard, they both denied it.. things stopped after the girl began to feel guilty about what was happening, and she eventually decided to come forward last year and contacted the police.. she said she had been dramatically affected by what had gone on, and that what happened with allen caused her to suffer a breakdown and still haunted her.. when allen was questioned by the police he accepted the incidents had taken place, but claimed it was the girl who had taken the lead.. elizabeth power, defending, said allen, who has a son and a daughter who were now both in their 20s, had attended for a voluntary interview with the police and made admissions.. he did not force himself on her but he was the adult and she was a child.

he says he was weak and was attracted to her.

freddo

@warehouse - oh dear. You do not sound good at all.

As for your "measly three years" well it's actually only one measly year in most situations in the UK as the age of consent is generally 16 over here unless there is a position of trust such as teacher/pupil. But it is a firmly drawn line and so it should be.

But if you want to defend a 15 year old girl being involved with a 35 year old married man and them being equally culpable you crack on pal. Shameful.

Completely different from teenagers of similar age experimenting with one just over and one just under the age of consent.