Posts by freddo

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Can I pick up a New World Translation from the JW London head office?

by Camperdown9 in

i'm an anglican and not a jehovahs witness.

what i dislike about lots of church congregations is their readiness to make unpleasant and unhelpful comments about other christian groups.

recently someone in a church tried to tell me a little about the views of jehovahs witnesses.

freddo

Hello!

This forum is open to Jehovah's Witnesses and non-Jehovah's Witnesses so welcome.

It is largely inhabited by ex-jehovah's witnesses, jehovah's witnesses who are trying to disengage from the religion without losing their family by being shunned and by troubled jehovah's witnesses who are sick and fed up of any or all or more than failed predictions/expectations, child abuse mishandling and thinly-veiled hints and requests for money.

In answer to your question - yes you could get a Bible from their London HQ, or you could go up to one of their literature trolleys in market squares across the UK and ask for one, or into a Kingdom Hall and ask for one.

You will be given one without charge.

Alternatively go on to jw.org and it is there on line on the home page for you to click on.

Come back here any time if you have a question and you will get honest answers.

27

I am losing

by NoMoreHustle in

i haven't posted anything for a bit, but wanted to express how i am losing this battle.

it has been over 3 years now since i woke up about watchtower.

the battle that i am talking about is the tug of war with my wife (i adore her immensely), watchtower is winning, she simply will not give in to my so-called negative thoughts about the religion that we are in.

freddo

Or stay with her and rebuild your life. Accept she wants to do what she wants to do. You do what you want to - get a hobby and do that when she is at meetings or on the ministry.

If she is not actively reporting you to elders and making your life misery just be a good husband (not a doormat), arrange fun things and weekends away and show your contended happy attitude even if you have to act it out sometimes.

Laugh lightly at the daft things (without being nasty to her) jw's now do. "I love the witness cart ministry. That must be why we have all these extra seats being filled at the meetings."

But also make a point. "How can you witness to parents to bring their families to the meetings when you know the brothers haven't sorted out the way they handle abuse problems?" Don't argue just make the comment and look puzzled.

Be happy focusing on the fact you are mentally free - not unhappy focusing on the fact that your wife isn't (yet).

33

Almost three months since Crisis of Conscience Cease and Desist

by ILoveTTATT2 in

jw
friends

i am very interested in getting crisis of conscience being fully available as soon as possible.

march 12th will mark exactly three months since the cease-and-desist letter was written.. i understand that things are slow and that deborah may be sick, but i was just wondering if anyone knew the status.

i have been asked twice already where the book can be obtained in spanish and i have told people that the book is not available.. there are ways to make ebooks extremely hard to share.

freddo

I bought mine on line last November. £48 if I recall.

It really is sad it is not available more readily.

33

lf you could ask god questions what would they be?

by atomant in

thought it might be an interesting exercise to read the variety of questions people might ask.

freddo

Anybody there? Hello?

20

What is the motivation behind the JW org?

by Half banana in

the gb has recently said that the brothers are generously contributing lots of money (at gunpoint it seems!

) so why with a billion dollar annual income do they demand more cash?

they have staunched the outward flow of money on paid preachers, zone overseers and bethel expenses and stalled the promised worldwide luxury buildings projects..

freddo

Lisa Rose - that sounds exactly right to me. Extremely well explained.

19

Word spreading back home

by BeautifulMind in

you all know how much jws loooove to gossip.

so...i just finished a email conversation with one of my self-righteous, super jw relatives back home.

let me preface this conversation by saying this relative is someone i don't communicate with, at all.

freddo

You all know your particular situations but what if they might be waking up and testing the water?

I know you have to tread carefully and all that but is there a non-committal non-threatening way you might enquire?

38

Pairing!!!!!

by brandnew in

jw
friends

dangit.......like i gotta cook for this hot chick tonight, ........i rented a suite at the mayaguez beach hotel, and she's totally into me.

i have my jeep....im still sore from my wreck....but dangit...im into this girl and i need y'alls help.

im californian....kinda been in the tropic forrest..bout 2years....and need some southern help.

freddo

You must try the FART test to see if she is a "keeper".*

If you go out in the car for a drive to some romantic spot then as you get about ten miles away from home let out a massive rip-snorting FAAAART. If you can get it to change tone part-way through then that is perfect. A two-tone five second long loud fart.

It needs to start loud and low then reach a crescendo in a kind of squeak at the end.

Obviously it will take a few seconds for the aroma to reach her nostrils. The smellier the better. Rich and memorable is what you are aiming for.

Is she a keeper?

If she doesn't vomit she's a keeper.

If she doesn't get out the car ten miles from home she's a keeper.

If she goes out on a second date she's definitely a keeper!

Hope that helps!

*No underpants were harmed in the making of this post.

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The March JW broadcast, presented by paedophile enabler Geoffery Jackson

by jambon1 in

jw
friends

all warm and fluffy this month after the utterly laughable 'bread' broadcast.

.

i'll always be grateful to the australian royal commission for allowing us to see this duplicitous, lying, creep, shown up as a snivelling, suck up, asshole, taken completely out of his self appointed authoritarian comfort zone.. anyway, a not too interesting broadcast i have to say..

freddo

And of course there will be the regular bulletin on jwbreadcasting:

Give us your dough!

Groan!

40

Closer/death/Funerals

by Leela1 in

hello all i am fairly new to this site even though i have been da since i was 16 years old i am now 35 years old.

i have had very little contact with my family since i left maybe a handful of times over the years.

i thought i put the past behind me and moved on i have 4 amazing kids of my own really supportive partner and great friends who have become my family.

freddo

Leela1 - I endorse what "Wing Commander" said.

Imagine if "THAT MAN" had joined the Nazi party - he'd have started like Irma Grise and ended like Heydrich - ending up like either of them would be a good end for him.

Actually Lieu has the best suggestion!

Edited to add: Steve 2 is "on the money" of course - being an x-jw and a prufeshnial an'all!

100

1975 coverup! Compare the '68 and '81 Truth book scans

by JimmyPage in

the wt society pointed to 1975 as the date for the end of the world.

when the date came and went they changed their publications to remove themselves from the fiasco.

need proof?

freddo

1st January 1989 WT page 12 para 8 last sentence.

This tells us that the preaching work would be completed within our "20th Century" - now changed in the bound volume and on the CD ROM to "our time".

The Book (Still on WT library CD ROM 2014) is the "Know Jehovah" - full title "The Nations Shall Know That I am Jehovah - How?" book (1971) Ch 12 p 216 par 9. which says that:

"Shortly, within our twentieth century, the "battle in the day of Jehovah" will begin against the modern antitype of Christendom."