Posts by freddo

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JW Publication Reviews

by lyfe in

hi all,i'm looking for a bit of help.

i'm in the process of reviewing the following three jw publications:* the watchtower no2.

2016 why did jesus suffer and die (this is the publication i am unable to find much information online)* was life created 2010 copy* awake no2.

freddo

Welcome to the forum lyfe.

Perhaps you could be more specific?

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I'm still on my JWN holidays but had to pop back to share this experience.

by nicolaou in

i'm a postman with the royal mail and was assigned to train a new starter yesterday.

my line manager introduces me to 'dave', within seconds my jw radar was on maximum!

in his mid to late 30's, politely spoken and with that haircut - i just knew it.. the post he'd applied for was saturdays only, he said he did a lot of volunteer work.

freddo

Perhaps ex-Bethelite "Dave" needs to get his ministry hours in on a Saturday morning ...

6 years at Bethel being "somebody" and now he's like the rest of us - having to work for his food and keep. His head must be spinning when he watches the GB and other Bethel heavies on TV in their luxury studio.

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LETTER RE: NEW ELDER ASSIGNMENTS (Satire Alert)

by freddo in

dear brothers,.

how thrilled we are that jehovah's chariot moves at breathtaking speed and that his earthly organization is keeping pace!.

we are writing to let you know about some wonderful provisions that are available as of june 1st 2016. listen, obey, pay and be blessed and you and your household will "overflow" with bounteous things.(prov.

freddo

Dear Brothers,

How thrilled we are that Jehovah's chariot moves at breathtaking speed and that His earthly organization is keeping pace!

We are writing to let you know about some wonderful provisions that are available as of June 1st 2016. Listen, obey, pay and be blessed and you and your household will "overflow" with bounteous things.(Prov. 3: 9,10)

The Service Committee in each congregation will no longer consist of the Co-ordinator, Secretary and Service Overseer. Also note the change to the title of Group Overseer to reflect the direction of Jehovah's chariot.

The new positions will be:

Coordinator of Collection of Usury Payments (COCUP)

This kindly and experienced brother will remind the publishers of the need to give generously. (Wallkill will not get gold taps without your $$$)

Secretary of Regularity of Donations in Dollars (SORDID)

This efficient and numerate brother will remind the publishers of the need to give regularly.

Service Our Debt Overseer - Fund Finance (SODOFF)

This ministry minded brother will remind the publishers that electronic publications don't come cheap and that they should donate for the fine spiritual provisions they receive.

Group Grabbing Overseer(s)

Each Group Grabbing Overseer will arrange kindly shepherding calls on those in his group on a quarterly basis to extract as much cash as he can.

We know these fine provisions will make you grateful for the spiritual paradise which for over 140 years has convinced us we are so, so very deep in the time of the end.

Your brothers,

Whichever Corporation Can Hide the Funds from Child Abuse Professed Victims

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Could they make not donating a disfellowshipping offence?

by purrpurr in

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i'm wondering at how far the borg could go in begging for money?

their halls are already resembling the"money changers in the temple".

as they get sued more and more due to their pedophilic paradise their coffers will be ever more drained.

freddo

Naaah! Social pressure is better. Or some goosestepping little secretary reminding everyone every so often to give more, more more.

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New Feature on JW Library

by neat blue dog in

there are a couple new tabs on the app, one of which is the 'meetings' tab.

can you guess what the other one is?.

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freddo

Wifibandit posted up a letter about this which will be read to all congregations over the next few days ...

We love you and your "helpers" Wifi! (But the GB and their helpers - not so much."

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Baptisms and Assembly attendances

by freddo in

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last year we had a thread posting baptisms in relation to assembly attendances.

the numbers seemed to be down.. please keep'em coming.

and describe whether you think they might be born-in (kids/teens) or adults from outside.

freddo

One from London UK last weekend.

Attendance 1,095

Baptisms (drum roll)... 2

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Approved in 1919?

by Labate in

i'm a little puzzled.

if the wtbts was not approved by jehovah and christ until 1919, does that mean that they were not spirit guided until then?.

if not, that would explain the countless errors in doctrine up to that time.. if, however, they were spirit guided, wouldn't that indicate that they had already been chosen?.

freddo

If Rutherford and his cronies were approved by God in 1919 then I'm the King of England.

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Picture of Stephen Lett in 1976!

by Iamallcool in

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https://macsdowell.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/1976-9-17-new-bethelites.jpg.

freddo

The years have not been kind ...

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Flying Scotsman Visits My Town

by cofty in

the iconic steam engine the flying scotsman has been restored and is back on tour along the east coast main line between london and edinburgh.

this evening it crossed the royal border bridge in berwick-on-tweed for the first time since it was put out of service in january 1963.. here are few shots.. .

freddo

Flying Scotsman:

Last run by B.R. in 1963. Bought by Alan Pegler and run as a private venture with some government backing until 1970. This loco often wore "smoke deflectors" but not always.

The second tender was made to carry water in 1966 for railtours as steam facilities on the east coast of Britain were being withdrawn. By the late summer of 1968 all B.R. regular steam had been withdrawn.

I believe the black and white picture by cofty was in late 1968 as the engine had been painted in LNER colours and is running a second (water) tender. Shortly after this final East Coast UK railtour Flying Scotsman toured the USA.

Britannia:

Built in right at the end of 1950 and entering service in January 1951 by British Railways as the first "standard" locomotive and withdrawn from service in 1966. She was used for King George VI's funeral train in February 1952. It has always worn "smoke deflectors"

This locomotive is preserved and in running order being used for railtours.

These engines are of similar power output - the Flying Scotsman being a more complicated 3 cylinder design with slightly bigger driving wheels for fast passenger work up to about 100 mph whereas Britannia was a post war "economical" 2 cylinder design equally at home on fast freight trains.

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Challenging JWs at Cult Carts

by cofty in

if i have time i always talk to jws when i see a cult cart.. they are in a public forum promoting a harmful ideology therefore they are fair game.

having said that, the individual jws on the trolley are not the enemy so i think it's better to keep it as friendly and non-confrontational as possible.. being realistic no jw is going to admit they are wrong because of something we say to them on the street but don't underestimate the long-term effect of doubts.. so what are your ideas for how to approach them?.

personally i like to use the literature on the cart.

freddo

@Cofty

You said you used the literature on the cart.

In the "Good News From God" brochure (A current favourite for JW's) Chapter 13 page 26 there is a priceless gem in the first paragraph.

I quote from Chapter 13 - p.26.

WHAT IS THE GOOD NEWS ABOUT RELIGION?

1. Is all religion good?

There are sincere people in all religions. It is good news that God sees those people and cares about them. But sadly, religion has been used for evil ends. (2 Corinthians 4: 3,4; 11: 13-15) According to news reports, some religions are even involved in terrorism, genocide, war and child abuse. How this saddens sincere believers in God!

Read Matthew 24:3-5, 11,12.

Red print highlight is mine of course.

My dream:

Me to JW's on cart: "What is the good news?"

JW's: "We have a brochure about that ... here look."

You: (After listening politely - turn to P26 and read out loud the complete paragraph above) "Hmmm ... Child Abuse eh? In Australia between 1950 and 2014 1006 cases of child abuse were recorded by Jehovah's Witnesses and not one of them was reported to the police. How sad does that make sincere believers in God?"

JW's: "Err ummm apostates flounder ummm ... self justification ... "

Me: "Shame on you! Shame on Anthony Morris 3rd! Shame on Geoffrey Jackson and the whole Governing Body!" (Stand perfectly still, say nothing for ten full seconds while they stammer and fluster. Hand back the brochure and say:) "And shame on you for standing here presenting your religion as being the so called "TRUTH".

(Turn your back and walk away shaking your head.)