Thinking of you Zeb. Take care and thank you for your support.
Posts by freddo
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24black dog comes to visit
by zeb indear friends,.
once again my depression has got the better of me and i must bow out for a time.. "the angels sang glory to god in the highest and on earth peace unto men of goodwill'.
so if that means at this special time of the year then have a happy and safe christmas time all of you.. hugs.
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Melbourne Victoria Circuit Assembly Figures
by jonahstourguide inhi all, kind of news i suppose.. fyi, 10/12/2016 at melton assembly hall.
1,266 in attendance.. two 15 yo, one male one female baptised.. costs for the day, $6,951:00 .
before costs contribution to sydney branch office from last assembly surplus $3,000:00. jtg.
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freddo
Thanks for that JTG. A whopping 0.16%!
Any mention of the elephant in the room AKA the ARC?
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There Were TWO Child Molesters Hiding In My Old Congregation
by pale.emperor init's come out in my old congregation that, not one, but two child molesters have been hiding in my old congregation.
i knew both of them and one of them, an old man, was regularly at my house for field service meetings on a weekly basis.. in my old congregation there's an apostate who was awake long before i was.
unfortunately he cant leave because his wife and children and parents are still full on believers.
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freddo
Maybe a handful of anonymous letters to a choice few of the local cong outlining the true facts might be helpful PE?
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Banned From The Kingdom Hall
by darkspilver inbanned from going to the kingdom hall..... a former jehovah’s witness has been banned from visiting any of the organisation’s kingdom halls in the uk – or face going to jail.. http://www.kentonline.co.uk/deal/news/judges-jail-warning-to-former-117012/.
previous thread / discussion.
youtube channel.
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freddo
"Anyone know the back story?"
Sorry - I must learn to read more carefully.
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Elder wants to stop by with the CO for a visit .
by NikL inso i got a text from an elder who i consider one of the good guys and a friend in his own way.. he asked if he could bring the co by for a visit.
he said it would be "just a pleasant call and visit and will hopefully encourage my wife".
he says that "he knows she is dealing with a ton of pressure".. in all my years around the organization, i never had a visit from the circuit overseer.
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freddo
@NikL "But seriously, what bad can result? I mean, what are they gonna do DF me? For nothing? Go ahead!
My wife might see what a bunch of BS it all is."
If you are very careful then you may well get your wife to see what a bunch of BS it all is; but I think the chances are very slim.
If you sound off about ARC/Generation/Moneygrabbing etc. then at some point you risk the question "Do you believe the FDS/GB is speaking for Jehovah?" question.
Unless you are prepared to lie through your teeth err ... use theocratic warfare then the "wrong answer" to this alone can result in them deciding you have DA'D in front of two witnesses.
If you are prepared to lie through your teeth and prepare well then why not?
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Elder wants to stop by with the CO for a visit .
by NikL inso i got a text from an elder who i consider one of the good guys and a friend in his own way.. he asked if he could bring the co by for a visit.
he said it would be "just a pleasant call and visit and will hopefully encourage my wife".
he says that "he knows she is dealing with a ton of pressure".. in all my years around the organization, i never had a visit from the circuit overseer.
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freddo
Why the sudden interest in you do you think?
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Elder wants to stop by with the CO for a visit .
by NikL inso i got a text from an elder who i consider one of the good guys and a friend in his own way.. he asked if he could bring the co by for a visit.
he said it would be "just a pleasant call and visit and will hopefully encourage my wife".
he says that "he knows she is dealing with a ton of pressure".. in all my years around the organization, i never had a visit from the circuit overseer.
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freddo
Could be anything from a genuine caring call to a witch-hunt disguised as a "genuine caring call".
However "genuine" your elder friend is, he will dance to the CO's merry tune.
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Banned From The Kingdom Hall
by darkspilver inbanned from going to the kingdom hall..... a former jehovah’s witness has been banned from visiting any of the organisation’s kingdom halls in the uk – or face going to jail.. http://www.kentonline.co.uk/deal/news/judges-jail-warning-to-former-117012/.
previous thread / discussion.
youtube channel.
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freddo
Anyone know the back story?
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Have the Elders ever been instructed by their bethel to call the police for abuse?
by StephaneLaliberte inright now, there are a lot of talks on this topic in quebec and, at the mid week meeting, they are reading the letter sent in 2002 where it states that the elders will call the authorities if the law forces them to.
the strange thing is, it looks like even when there are laws to that effect, jws seem to believe that it does not apply to them.
for instance, i know that they do not report anything in quebec, even if it is the law!
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freddo
My experience with talking to London bethel by phone as an elder matches "above us only sky's" experience.
I cannot hand on heart say that the anonymous voice at the other end said do not report this to the authorities but that was how the conversations were steered (two).
One was a historical sex abuse case which the branch knew about and I said to the toady at the other end (this was when you could get advice as one brother phoning in, not two) that a brother who was a victim wanted to go to the police and the reply was "while that is his right, you might ask him what he thinks it will achieve after all this time".
The police were informed by the brother and I testified my (hearsay) knowledge of the case to the police without telling the branch.
The second was just before I resigned as an elder and we had a family in the cong. where the four kids were borderline being neglected by their dopey jw. mother who would avoid the social services like the plague because she knew that she would be at risk of having one or more of the kids closely monitored or taken into care.
Anyway, one older kid began to threaten a younger sibling with scissors and knives and it came to the elders attention so two of us phoned the branch where the anonymous brother said it would be better if the mother or a relative called in the social services. We said that they (the jw mother and a jw aunt) wouldn't and we felt we should.
Again the toady on the service desk didn't want elders going to the authorities but said we "might encourage the relatives to go to the social services as that would be the best option."
When I said they undoubtedly wouldn't he said try to get them to and then come back to us if they won't.
Myself and the other brother decided between us to go to the social services and ignore the idiot at bethel.
The family was monitored closely from that point onwards with even a well handled police involvement where the older kid had professional help with no criminal charge or conviction.
My view is that the twisted bastards on the service desk are more concerned about keeping their board and lodging and keeping the "outside of the grave" clean rather than children's welfare.
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freddo
@Lone_Wolf
This thread is to highlight how depraved and disgusting the passages of scripture are. Not to support them.
We're being ironic.