Posts by freddo

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Stonewalling and the Governing Body

by UnshackleTheChains in

why do the gb stonewall individuals with legitimate questions.

for example, they refuse to speak to investagative journalists like trey bundy, unless they happen to get caught somewhere walking about in the street by chance.. i remember the panorama documentary 'suffer the little children' where the presenter tried to arrange an interview with one of the gb.

i can't remember if the gb either refused or simply didn't reply.

freddo

It is even rare to be allowed to ask a question in elders meetings of the CO. If he doesn't like it he will quickly shut it down.

I remember a classic elders school in the UK in the 1990's where they allowed an "any questions (about judicial procedure)" at the end. We had had 8 hours on a wet and rainy December weekend and faced a two hour drive home.

After about three or four questions from wannabee keeners in the nature of "what counts as gambling" and "what's the difference between "heavy petting" and "loose conduct" sort of thing this crusty old boy says ...

"I have a question. I'm tired and have been sat here for eight hours. Can we go home please!?"

And the instructor said yes and wrapped it up!

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May 24, 2017 TO ALL BODIES OF ELDERS Re: Donations to “Jehovah’s Witnesses of India” by Indian Passport Holders

by wifibandit in

may 24, 2017 to all bodies of elders re: donations to “jehovah’s witnesses of india” by indian passport holders.

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freddo

Isn't there a scripture about not using this world to the full? Seems WT uses every financial loophole it can find to its benefit ...

1st Cor. 7 v 31

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June 29, 2017 TO ALL CONGREGATIONS Re: Branch Relocation - Newsletter (UK)

by wifibandit in

june 29, 2017 to all congregations re: branch relocation - newsletter.

britain branch relocation - newsletter ed.5 summer 2017. .

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freddo

"No hint of scaling back there."

I dunno - how many "apartments" to a floor - 6?

X by 25 = 150 x 2 people per apartment = 300 residents? This might even include guest accommodation for visiting GB members and other "dignitaries."

Huge scale back from present facilities (which will easily pay for this and then some.)

Once they're completed by deluded volunteer drones doing "Jehovah's work" (and avoiding D2D and cart work) watch out for the mass firings of even more Bethelites (no more printing from March next year remember) ...

Bethelites being enthusiastic about this = turkeys voting for Xmas!

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What does it take to qualify for cart/trolley work?

by Londo111 in

if memory serves me, when it was first introduced elders had to fill out a form to grade a jw, and only those who made the grade could do the carts.. i didn’t realize until sir82 said something on another discussion that the process had changed.. what is the process nowadays?

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freddo

Local cong. it is usually most publishers who would be allowed to aux. pioneer. However smellies, crazies, elder-baiters need not apply.

Metropolitan (circuit organised for a larger town or city and it's the reg. pios plus solid elders, min. servs and their wives and a handful of favoured exemplary publishers allowed by the service committee.

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Tony Morris Shows Off Engraved Gold Ring with Turquoise Birthstone(?)

by Funchback in

the july jw broadcasting camera zooms in on tony's ring at around the 8:30 mark here:https://tv.jw.org/#en/mediaitems/latestvideos/pub-jwb_201707_1_video.

maybe it's not a big deal.

maybe it is.. in my opinion, it's being kind of flashy.

freddo

He's an overdressed, overweight, overbearing, self-important, deluded and demanding little porker.

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Fallacies in the article on war at Awake! No. 5 2017

by Master_Bob in

why did ancient israel go to war?.

what some people say.

the israelites worshipped a bloodthirsty “tribal war god.”.

freddo

WHAT SOME PEOPLE SAY

The Israelites worshipped a bloodthirsty “tribal war god.”

Yup! That's about it. Read Judges 19 through 21 if you don't believe me.

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The coordinator of cong visited me last night

by Chook in

he ran into me a work and asked could he come , i said only if you're by yourself and don't wear company garb.

3 hours later and i might as well talked to myself.

i used every illustration and persuasive argument.

freddo

If you've said similar to anybody else who is a loyal JW then they have their two witnesses to DF you. (Which of course is why many of us haven't got the balls to do what you did.)

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She's here and early! 27 weeks 1day.

by Darkknight757 in

so as of july 2nd my wife delivered by c-section our little one pound, three ounce daughter izabella.

it was a very scary night that started with a decel and turned into multiple decels that greatly concerned the doctors.

by early morning they felt the need to take her for her safety.

freddo

Keeping fingers (and everything else) crossed so that all continues to go well!

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Dutch conventions organized like circuits

by Gorbatchov in

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friends

here in holland jw.org is organizing for the first time the yearly conventions like circuits.

the whole summer the new convention hall is used for small group conventions instead of 10.000 seat external halls.. it keeps the money in the organization.

not renting external buildings.. the 29.000 witnesses here are divided now into 2.000 seat audience.. g..

freddo

The last sort of glimmer of JW camaraderie I experienced was at Twickenham in 2014. 40,000/50,000 odd I think. Before that it was outdoor stadiums with about 8,000 to 12,000 so fairly sizeable. (Going way back to early Twickenham, Swindon, Southampton, Bournemouth and Cardiff in the 70's through 90's it was 10K to 30K and Wembley of 1969 with a peak of 80K)

It was wearing thin by then (2014) But that was the last jw camaraderie I experienced in the UK. After that it has been indoor arenas with less than 6,000. Souless dumps - but in 2015 and 2016 I was missing the Friday and this year I will probably show up just for the Sunday "to keep the peace".

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Watchtower teaches that Jesus dying on the stake is no longer certain

by Listener in

the watchtower has held for many years that jesus died on a stake and held strongly to this teaching.

w 1951 3/15 the above agrees with the new world translation of the christian greek scriptures in its appendix, page 769, in saying that the instrument upon which jesus was nailed was a stake without a crossbeam, and not the religiously represented “cross”; and that the greek word used for that instrument in ancient time meant a “stake” and not the conventional religious cross.

they are no longer certain on this point.

freddo

SBF said - "I think they previously conceded it might be a cross shape but said ultimately it doesn't matter."

Yes I seem to remember this too SBF.