Consequences for having a non religious wedding ceraminy?

by Addison0998 in

hey i was wondering if maybe someone who is an ex elder or who knows a lot about these things could help me.

my dad is an elder but i need to be cautious with questions i ask.

now that i’ve been woken up from my brainwashed love of this corrupt corporation and from my belief in the bible, and my fiancé is starting to wake up as well, i really don’t want to have the sexist, overused, impersonal talk outline used for my wedding ceremony by some elder who is trying to show off his talk giving skills.

freddo

I think your main worry will be close family and their attitudes.

I know of a couple who I believe are still jw's who eloped in the middle of the night in the early 1980's, went to Gretna Green and married in a civil ceromony and came back to the hall. Fait Accompli.

I know another jw couple who did the same but went off to Paris!

All they got was a verbal bollocking but no reproof or anything. The last couple - he became a pioneer a year later and then a few years after that MS then Elder.

As far as anyone knows the above couples had "clean" courtships in jw terms too. Just didn't want the hassle of a formal jw wedding.

Also I knew of couples who were "dealt with" by elders for sex before marriage and so not allowed to use the KH and so had a civil non-religious ceremony.

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I just bought a John Deere 6130R tractor!

by silentbuddha in

you may be thinking, "so, what... it's just a tractor" right.

yes, it is just a tractor.

however, for me it was the last step in me actually realizing my dream of becoming a farmer.

freddo

https://youtu.be/tb63PdPweDc

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Evening gala/ball

by Researchedandenlightened in

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can anyone tell me when, and why jehovahs witnesses hold evening gala,s / ball with full tuxedo,s and evening gowns ?

is it uk only as i have heard family throughout the uk attend these events (jw only) of course !.

what is the purpose of these events and how long have the dubs being doing so ?

freddo

Never been to one but have a now married friend who used to on occasion. They seem to largely be singles and divorcees often not "appointed as E/MS" - maybe a few married with no kids who like to socialise and my friend would travel quite long distances (in UK terms) to go - sort of 50 - 100 miles - as they tended to be held in the catchment areas of London, Birmingham, Manchester or some other major city.

Dunno about Scotland - maybe they put on a kilt and dance round swords!

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Active witnesses? Please help?

by Ahava in

hi,i'm lost and a little sad.

i actually like the jw faith.

some might call this faith cold, strict, dogmatic but they're just trying to follow rules and give back to god.

freddo

Welcome!

Maybe start with Luke 21 v 8 and 2 Thessalonians 2 v 2.

Do these two scriptures not show that JW's should not be constantly talking about impending doom all the time?

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Ryde ( I o Wight UK ) KH now a vets.

by stan livedeath in

was:.

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now:.

freddo

Just to clarify PE - it's now five congregations in three halls.

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Seeking info - murder suicide in WA Australia - were they Witnesses?

by iwasblind in

hey guys.

a grandfather murdered his wife, daughter and 4 grandkids.. the father says his kids are in a "new system" and says his god is "jehovah".

the grandparents lived on a farm and called it their "foreever farm".

freddo

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5085269649784832/australian-family-murder-suicide-jw-connection

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who has been out the longest?

by stan livedeath in

who has been out of the cult the longest ?.

i'll start--i resigned in 1971, but attended occasionally as a non-interested husband to keep the wife sweet, untill my last circuit assembly in autumn 1980. no connection with the cult since then.

so--its either 47 or 38 years, depending on how you see it.. which begs the question--why am i on this site now ?.

freddo

When you say you're still in "stillin" - do you still put in a report?

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The political left, perfectly captured in one short video exchange

by Simon in

this perfectly encapsulates the behaviour and opinions of the left and dave rubin nails it - "you're not oppressed, you're entitled".. lots of of shouting and claims of being denied rights to speak but nothing really to say when given a mic, just endless shouting and baseless confused claims about 'free speech'.

hey, some blm bitches try and get in on it too because, why not.. constant "i have a question, i have a question ..." as though she isn't allowed to ask it when the reality is she really has nothing to say, she just wants to stop other people being able to talk.

what a stupid cunt.. sadly, the left is indoctrinating a generation to think that *this* is what political discourse and "taking a stand" is.

freddo

I thought she was a shrill and irritating young woman BUT forgetting who presented the view (her and the two chanting women) that hate speech can incite violence it is sadly true and Rubin DIDN'T answer that specific question.

A line should be drawn between the two polarised views expressed. Does anyone here think that (as has happened in the UK) that gangs of (often) young disaffected non working young men in their late teens can stand outside the homes of and shout and laugh at disabled people or downs syndrome people without the government using its power to intervene?

I think the problem also is in describing views as "left and right". Some of my views chime with the traditional right (no where near extreme), some with the traditional left (no where near the extreme) and most are probably in the middle.

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Australian Family Murder-Suicide - JW connection?

by freddo in

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in the sydney morning herald - according to a link on exjwreddit it seems that there is a jw connection to this dreadful tragedy.. it is a long article and i quote a couple of sentences and the headline.. headline.

'peter didn't snap.

he thought this through': father of shooting victims speaks'.

freddo

In the Sydney Morning Herald - according to a link on exjwreddit it seems that there is a jw connection to this dreadful tragedy.

It is a long article and I quote a couple of sentences and the headline.

Headline

'Peter didn't snap. He thought this through': Father of shooting victims speaks'

First paragraph

The grief-stricken father of four children shot dead in their beds on a West Australian farm says their grandfather, who pulled the trigger, "did not snap" but had been "thinking this through for a long time".

Part way down

The bodies of Mr Miles and his wife Cynda, his daughter Katrina, and his four grandchildren Taye, Rylan, Ayre and Kayden Cockman, all of whom had autism, were found shot dead on a 30-acre property in Osmington on Friday.

Further down (statement by father of dead children - and ex son in law of believed killer)

While Mr Cockman believes the Miles family's own struggles were the catalyst for the murder-suicide, he said he had experienced his own battles with the family, including over the custody of his children since his divorce from Ms Miles.

"I've had so much anger ... ever since I was cut off from my kids for six months. That was due to Peter and Cynda," he said.

Twenty something paragraph (26?)

Mr Cockman said he had been supported by his family and his faith.

"I've got an awesome, powerful strong family,'' he said. ''They get their strength from Jehovah and so do I."

- - - - - - -

It does seem on the face of it that there may be a jw/exjw situation - does anyone on here know any more?

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So what's this special meeting all about?

by purrpurr in

any guesses?.

freddo

We should get more reports soon as it was played on Saturday at the few congs that meet on a Saturday and will be repeated today (Sunday) at the usual meeting times - you know 10.00 and 2.00 and a few late afternoon/evening ones for the poor suckers who have to wait - wasting a whole warm sunny day here throughout most of the UK until the third slot.

Personally if I want to watch spin I'll sit in front of my washing machine.

freddo

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'Peter didn't snap. He thought this through': Father of shooting victims speaks'