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  Advice on parking lot accident

  by bboyneko in

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  in the following scenario, who is at fault:.

  a parked vehicle (car a) has just parked.

  the driver gets out, and the passenger starts to get out a little after the driver does.

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  Infrared

  I had this senario happen to me a couple of months ago. I was in the parked car, and a lady ran into my door. Her insurance company paid for the damage, no problem. It is definately the moving cars fault.
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  A song I wrote

  by Infrared in

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  i was flipping through an old notebook of mine, and came across this song i wrote a couple of years ago, shortly after i stopped attending meetings.. verse 1. sometimes i feel,.

  like i'm wearing someones mask.. i hide my soul,.

  on the shelf.. i've worn the face,.

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  Infrared

  I was flipping through an old notebook of mine, and came across this song I wrote a couple of years ago, shortly after I stopped attending meetings.

  Verse 1

  Sometimes I feel,
  like I'm wearing someones mask.
  I hide my soul,
  on the shelf.
  I've worn the face,
  of many other men.
  to be someone,
  people understand.
  But if its not me,
  then I'm living my own lie.
  I try so hard.
  I dont know why.
  I cant believe,
  I subject my serenity,
  to be like them,
  I'm on my knees.

  Chorus

  So whats a wounded soul to do?
  Whats a lost state of mind gonna find?
  If its not too late,
  I'd like another try.
  If its not too late,
  I'd like another try.

  There is a girl,
  She shares my point of view.
  She lives her life,
  the way I try.
  She understands,
  whats locked inside of me.
  I see it in her eyes,
  and I wonder why.
  It took so long,
  to become my own self.
  And to hell with them,
  the ones that left.
  I found my life,
  within my soul.
  I found the key,
  it set me free.

  Repeat chorus

  This song brings back painful memories, of being cut off from people you grow up with, and think are your friends. I've come along way from then, and have started a new life that dosent require supressing who I really am.
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  Thank all of you!

  by Infrared in

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  i am primarily a lurker here, but i feel compelled to post today.

  i have been soul searching for a while now, and trying to come to terms with who i am, and what i believe.

  this forum has been immensley helpful to me and my recovery from the wtbts, and i appreciate everyone of you for contribution to my process of moving on.

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  Yes it feels great to express myself. The only problem is lack of time. I could go on and on about it. After leaving, you realize how little love and concern there is in the congregation. I have not recieved so much as a phone call in the last year from my so called brothers and sisters, and I was not DAed or DFd.
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  Thank all of you!

  by Infrared in

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  i am primarily a lurker here, but i feel compelled to post today.

  i have been soul searching for a while now, and trying to come to terms with who i am, and what i believe.

  this forum has been immensley helpful to me and my recovery from the wtbts, and i appreciate everyone of you for contribution to my process of moving on.

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  Hello all. I am primarily a lurker here, but I feel compelled to post today. I have been soul searching for a while now, and trying to come to terms with who I am, and what I believe. This forum has been immensley helpful to me and my recovery from the WTBTS, and I appreciate everyone of you for contribution to my process of moving on. I am comforted by the fact that I am not alone in my quest for "truth."
  I was raised a JW, 4th generation, my great grandfather was one of the early bible students who was imprisoned during 1919, needless to say my JW roots run deep. My mother married my father at age 19, when my father was new to the organization, and he quickly faded, much to the dismay of my mother. My father was not a good man, he was an alcoholic, and a wife beater, to me my mother was "saintly" in comparison. Growing up she was my rock of inspiration, and to this day I am moved by the sacrifices she made to keep the family togeather. My parents eventually divorced when I was 12. My father married the next weekend to a woman I despise to this day. I have two brothers who went with my father after their divorce, and their lives have turned out much like my fathers.
  I chose to stay with my mother, I felt when comparing my mother and father, that I was comparing the world to the truth, and so I strived to be a good witness.I got baptised and immediately became an auxillary pioneer, (I was one of those home schooled kids putting the truth first.) I was held in high esteem by the congregation, and more importantly, by my mother. I was quickly moving up the ladder of responsibilty and felt very good about myself.
  As a teenager, I got into some trouble. Typical stuff, get caught smoking, sneeking out of the house with young sisters. I would usually get off fairly lightly, because I was really a decent kid who appeared very repentant.
  As I got a little older, I decided to go to college. It was semi-frowned upon, but I did not get seriously chastised for it. I also moved out on my own with a good friend of mine. About this time I began to realise why the society frowned on higher education. I was meeting many different kinds of people, and I was enjoying new thoughts and ideas. I very slowly faded away during this time. I realised there was a lot of things to learn, and I had a thirst for new experiences.
  Then came the shocker. I was approached by a man one day about a "business oppertunity." I went to a meeting about this oppurtunity, and it turned out to be an Amway meeting lol. I heard about how people where just making money hand over fist. But the people just seemed strange to me, they had a complete lingo of their own much like the witnesses. So like any "business oppurtunity," I decided to check out the internet about it. I found hundreds of websites of people who compared this business to a cult, and their many devious business opperations. One in particular caught my eye. The owner of the website was a former witness and former Amway rep, and had both listed as dangerous cults. Up until this time, I was just an inactive witness, and was still attending some meetings. That website opened up the floodgates of knowledge about the society. I literally spent days going through this information with disbelief. I couldnt beleive it. Was I decieved all these years. I began to question my belief system. Blood transfutions,607, 1975, 1914, 1925, was all this true.
  From that time forward, I have come to see the socitey, as it really is, a controlling money machine organization and nothing more.
  Months passed by, and I found myself here, and it is a breath of fresh air. So many different kinds of people from different backrounds, and different belief systems, all getting on with their lives. I love it, and I appreciate all of you.
  Fortunately I have not been shunned by my mother, but I know it just eats her up knowing that I have no desire to come back. I hope some day I can show her the truth about the truth. As many of you know, it is very hard to get through the thick layers of dubdom, but by god, I will try.
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  Test your morality here.

  by sleepy in

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  welcome to the test your morality post.. this one of the worlds tests and has been compialed by one of the worlds greatest scientific minds.. unfortunatly i've lost that test so here is my own.. you and group of friends/workmates have a lottery sydicate going.. every week you each have personnal set of numbers that you enter if any of those numbers comes up you share the winnings.. you take it in turns to go to the shop to by the tickets.. here are your dilemas.. 1.one week a work mate/friend is ill or on holiday (or something happens that makes it impossible for them to pay)and cannot to pay for their ticket.your sydicate wins.. do you share the prize with him?.

  2.one week a work mate forgets to pay his share.. do you share the prize with him?.

  3.one week the person who elected to by the tickets forgets .one of the numbers comes up.. do you forgive them?.

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  1. Hell no
  2. Hell no
  3. Hell no
  4. Hell yeah
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  Submissive Houston Sisters Are Quite Useful

  by Englishman in

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  it beats me what this is all about.

  i recognise the style though, i think it's from the 50's: http://www.jwrelief.org/hrc/wnu/wnu%2001-14-02englprint.htm.

  englishman.. ..from the scepter'd isle kept free by 2 fins and 4 merlins.

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  My mother went to help out Christmas week, and was so thrilled to get away from the holiday festivities, that us vile worldlings participate in.
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  What Its All About - Lurkers

  by Amazing in

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  its all about lurkers: there are at least three main types of lurkers, 1. a jw with doubts, concerns, feeling that something is wrong with the religion, 2. an ex-jw who is caught between two worlds, and does not feel free yet to live a normal life, 3. a non-jw who is either involved with a jw, or a relative of a jw, or is in the middle of being studied with by the jws.. defining moments: everything we write, say, and do is observed by the lurkers.

  in a single moment, or a series of collected comments, we will eventually cause a lurker to have a defining moment ... a point in time where they decide that being a jw is not for them anymore, or that they can stop living between two worlds, or cease studying, and not join the religion.

  we may never know who we help, or how many.. flame wars and character attacks: when we get embroiled in these, whether we are the instigator or the brunt of the attacks ... what are we really doing?

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  Good topic amazing. I have always enjoyed your post and responses to various threads. When I first started having doubts, I personally didnt have the urge to lurk in chat rooms. I read the valuable info on sites such as Free Minds and the Watchtower Observer. I read the many personal examples, including yours, that drove home to me the fact that I was part of a deseptive religon. I was fully convinced that I could not go on living a lie before I ever came to chat rooms. When I did start coming here it was a breath of fresh air to me. We have people from different backrounds, and different personalities, who represent a variety of views that, as witnesses, did not have the freedom to express. Of course we have some flamers here that love to get people rowled up, but it is so great to come here and not have to agree with everything everyone says, and to voice our views and shape our views on our own, without the threat of a judicial commitee. For the lurkers out there I strongly suggest questioning your current beliefs, and reading through the valuable information on sites such as Free Minds and the Watchtower Observer. Form your own opinions, and do not be so concerned with the content of all the post here. We all come from a backround of suppression of thought.(those that where JW's anyway) Then if your mind has become made up that you do not believe WT doctrine anymore, you will be much more open to forums such as these, where you are not preprogrammed in your responses and defensive when someone here says something you dont agree with.
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  Alternate Lyrics for Kingdum Songs

  by Abaddon in

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  we're jehovah's wit-nes-ses.

  we speak out of wit-less-ness.

  ours is the god of bu-reauc-racy.

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  WERE JEHOVAHS WITNESSES,
  WE SPEAK OUT OF CARELESSNESS,
  OURS IS THE GOD OF FALSE PROPHECY,
  WHAT HE FORTELLS FAILS TO BE
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  How Long A JW ( Baptised )?

  by hillary_step in

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  i frequently read on this board that somebody has 'been a jw for over 25 years' and then learn that they are in fact 25 years and three days old.. i am very easily confused, in fact i actually got inside a car of similar color to my own recently and spent at least five minutes with a furrowed brow trying to force my car key into its ignition, fortunately, i realised my error before i was arrested.

  so, just to humor me, can you all post how long you were/are baptised jw's?.

  thank you -- hs.

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  Infrared

  Born into the Borg in 1978
  Baptized in 1990
  Reg pioneer, and MS 1997- 1999
  Came to my senses in 1999 and walked away, never dfd or da.
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  What will happen to the children?

  by YoYoMama in

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  check out this news story: http://web.star-telegram.com/content/fortworth/2001/12/21/foreign/fw030707-1221-xa036-terror.htm.

  many question jehovah on what will happen with the children during armageddon.

  i don't know that answer entirely so i'll wait and see what happens.

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  YOYO and Fred are getting such valuable service time here. Its a good thing that Jehovah provided this wonderful forum for peolple like these to enlighten us and show us our errant ways. With the added bonus of padding their service hours for the month, because they are to lazy to go door to door. Dont you have a meeting to study for.