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  How important are the US witnesses for the WTBTS survival?

  by dgp in

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  2. friends

  i understand the number of witnesses is not growing much, or is actually decreasing, in a few originally important countries.

  i also understand that growth in the united states come from non-white and possibly non-american congregations, and that the wtbts' growth, as a whole, comes from developing countries (latin america, maybe africa).

  i notice that the training school for missionaries, gilead, is in the united states.

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  wantarevolution

  It will survive in some form, however based on what I see at the moment, the JW's are quickly becoming an african religion (not that there's anything wrong with that). The "faith" is getting more emotional, less "rational" to play to this. The competition between the pentecostal churches and the JW's is strong here. People have their foot in both camps, as they have the social aspect of the pentecostal churches.

  Our CO at the last SAD gave this statistic - since 2007 in our circuit, 64 were baptized, 62 of them were from the African continent. 60% of the audience were african that english as a common tongue.
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  WTS publication: Mankind's Search for God

  by Gorbatchov in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  friends,.

  at the end of the 80's the wts published "mankind's search for god", about the global mainstream religion's.. what's your opinion about this publication?.

  i think it was written for use on the weekly bookstudy, there were questions for all paragraphs.. after the publication it was never used at the bookstudy, and it was only rarely used in the congregation.. .

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  strange...I remember studying it quite vividly, though I could be hallucinating
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  List of Prominent JW Urban Legends...

  by Tuesday in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hey folks,.

  i'm wondering if you all could help me with my next video that i want to put up in the next couple of days (though i'm hoping for tonight), i want to come up with a list of the most prominent urban legends surrounding jws and then refute them whatever they may be.. i'm thinking there's the urban legend about the question on jeopardy that said the nwt was the most accurate would be a good one.

  that one stems from an online powerpoint presentation named theological jeopardy and a book which was written comparing six different translations of the bible.

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  wantarevolution

  millions now living WILL never die...

  oh and random walking troll doll stories as well..
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  Bethel reductions in Europe

  by Lost-In-Translation in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  perhaps this has been discussed before, but at the extjforo.com (the spanish ex-witness website) there has been a lot of discussion of the governing body's decision to either close or severely reduce bethel homes in europe - in particular spain.

  there was even a letter sent to all congregations in spain explaining the situation.

  bethalites are being asked to leave - they are not even getting other assignments.

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  wantarevolution

  we just had our special assembly day here - the visiting speaker said how most of spanish branch were leaving this week.

  A direct quote

  "there are a lot of unhappy people, unhappy at leaving their home and their friends - the branch overseers at breakfast reminds all that this is jehovah's will, not the will of man"
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  What's Your View on Tipping?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  typically, i give at least 20% on my total bill.

  if the service or the waitress is especially charming, maybe more.. i wonder, when you sit at a bar/restaurant and have a meal and drinks and then order a take out ( i do this for my mother quite often) are you supposed to tip on everything, including the takeout??.

  when i stay in a hotel, i typically leave 2 or 3 dollars per day for the maid.

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  Tipping has always confused me. In ireland - for a service like Taxi etc, I would always round up to the next Note (ie , if a ride was 12€ it would be a 10€ and a 5€ and a "keep the change".

  Here in a cafe , you always leave small change - so if a coffee costs 1€,30, 10 - 15c suffices. When you are with a group of people, and drinking a lot of beers on table services, it is usually about 50c per trip the waitress makes - so 4 beers each (for four people) you usually leave probably 2€.

  The attitude here (both by punters and servers) is that they are just doing their job - like everyone else is...
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  Did the JW's really get treated better in north Ireland?

  by highdose in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i remember hearing about all the trouble there, and how the power factions left the jw's alone though because they knew they were nutral.

  now that i'm questioning the rubbish i've been taught all my life, i'm starting to question it too.

  it certainly would not fit in with everything i've heard that went on there.. any ideas?.

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  no - it is entirely true - i have many "friends" from the North who all told tales of people being nice to them (1st person, not friend of a friend)

  The north was a complicated province, and the two sides respected people who were neither for or against.

  That being said, the sides only represented a minority of the province - most people wanted to quietly get on with their own lives and stayed away from the conflict as much as they could.
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  More Cultural Differences - Strictness Levels & Demographic

  by creativhoney in

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  2. friends

  from what i read on these threads it seems to me that the usa is a lot stricter than the uk, in all aspects of the religion.

  - is this a general cultural thing, ie a lot of middle america are still a godfearing bunch, or just a witness thing, maybe a bit of both, and if anyone could provide examples of strictness, lets see how the same situation would be handled in the uk?

  and is it easier going in cities than the country counterparts?

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  hmm vacations are normal here - they usually merge two congregations in August cos there are so many away for the whole month :D

  To be honest I find spain a lot stricter than where I am from though our PO is english and really chilled out - live and let live sort of vibe. The PO of a congregation further a long the coast us run by an american from NY who is a tyrant and a half. A lot of the heavies in the bethel in Torrejon are english so it tends to be more chilled. The spanish hall that we sometimes go to, you can tell is chilled - all the young ones have stayed and are pretty damn balanced.

  Now going to a hall in the states ....that's a different story. It always felt different..very different to what I was used to - it is hard to put my finger on what it was
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  Did You Personally Know Any JWs That Were Sexually Molested By Other JWs?

  by minimus in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i knew of a handful (which is too many) that were molested by a jehovah's witness.

  it was not typical in my experience.

  what about you???.

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  1 in a neighbouring hall - dealt with badly

  , 1 in my own hall - dealt with well , guy spent max sentence in prison and is on sexual offenders register
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  David H. Splane will visit Spain

  by JHK in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  according circuit overseer, brother splane will visit spain branch, in ajalvir (madrid).

  the objective is to sell the factory and the 450 apartment complex, how much money?

  more than 1.000.000.000 euros!

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  wantarevolution

  actually Billy - Splane does speak spanish - at the 2003 international in Barcelona, he closed in Spanish. It was slow, but still good.

  As for tax laws - you can import/export 10,000€ out of the eurozone without declaring.

  There is "talk" of a stadium talk in Madrid when he is here, and possibly in a southern city as well
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  Cooks and their ingredients. Questions.

  by compound complex in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  hey there, cooks or chefs [outlaw]:.

  i love to cook!

  though alone, i decided long ago that i would not go the fast or packaged food route.

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  wantarevolution

  Olive oil is good from any where in the Med, Spanish extra virgin tastes rather different to Italian.

  It is worth bearing in mind that my favourite dish (learnt at the hand of my friends italian grandmother, in Tuscany) is a putanesca (the whore's sauce :D). one of the theories of it's name is that the ingredients are so basic, that even a puta would have it in her larder (another theory is that it seems so wrong, but tastes so good :D) - all you need is black olives, whole peeled tomato, garlic (of course), anchovies (in olive oil), capers.

  Fry the garlic in a gloop of oil, add the olives - once the garlic is slightly browned, add in a tin of whole tomato - add the capers and the anchovies - stir until the anchovies have disintegrated - then cover until you want it. The longer it simmers, the better.

  I made it last night, total cost = €4 (around $5)

  I am officially of the "throw it all in and see what comes out" school of cooking.

  I always use seasonal veg (it is hard not to here) however - it tastes fresh and variates what you eat through out the year.