i am thinking of stepping down from my position in the congregation.
this is the first big step to my fade from the jw world.
i talked to my wife about it and she told me that she thought it was best i did because there is no reason to do something if your heart is not wanting to do that.
thanks everyone. I think I may go the stress/chronic fatigue syndrome.
Sorry keyser, but I think I will pass on the sex change.
Tuesday, the explosive diarrrhea may just be an option for why i cant work in service any longer.
rock: Sorry brothers, i can't go out.
BOE: why? what is the problem?
rock: explosive diarrhea.
BOE: we could work near places with bathrooms
rock: comes on too fast, wont make it
BOE: what about diapers?
rock: tried that, blew them apart it was so bad
i am thinking of stepping down from my position in the congregation.
this is the first big step to my fade from the jw world.
i talked to my wife about it and she told me that she thought it was best i did because there is no reason to do something if your heart is not wanting to do that.
I am thinking of stepping down from my position in the congregation. This is the first big step to my fade from the JW world. I talked to my wife about it and she told me that she thought it was best I did because there is no reason to do something if your heart is not wanting to do that. She has encouraged me to make a choice of staying in or getting out but she said she does not want me to DA or DF. She thinks if I am going to stop going, just fade away so that I can still have contact with family and friends and it would be easier for her from a family standpoint. I agree that for now, a fade is best. So I am ready to start. I have to take the first step though. I have tried to come up with a valid reason that will not draw too much attention though. I have had increased work through my job, but that fluctuates and the brothers know that. So, I don't think I can use that. I thought about health, but then they inquire too much on that. I thought about saying I am ill spiritually, but that too will cause high levels of inquiries. So, any excuses anyone else used that kept people and questions to a minimum? And yes, the truth would be best but that is not going to happen.
I could hear it now-
rock: I am stepping down brother COBE.
COBE: Why would you want to do that?
rock: because I have issues with the blood transfusion.
COBE: what issues?
rock: how do you justify taking from a pool of blood banked by worldly people but you wont give?
COBE: blood is sacred, we don't donate blood.
rock: if it is sacred, and you won't give, how can you use the supply of sacred blood?
COBE: we use fractions.
rock: which come from donated blood
COBE: Yes, but many people use blood that do not donate
rock: true, but if many people stole a dollar from their boss, just because they do it doesn't make it right.
COBE: you are missing the point
rock: and the point is?
COBE: Jehovah said blood is sacred.
rock: then why are you using it?
COBE: we are not using it, we use fractions
rock: which come from donated blood, right?
Well, this is just one of the many topics I could choose from, this one just sets ill with me particularly bad today for personal reasons.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/12/us/12coldcalls.html?hp.
june 12, 2009door to door as missionaries, then as salesmen .
by kirk johnson .
i actually got my first sales job because of the ministry work that JWs are known for. I will say, I hated cold calling at houses for money. Imagine how i felt doing it for free
"inciting hatred on the basis of race, religion, gender, nationality or sexuality or other personal characteristic.".
is this seriously one of the forum's rules to follow?
how can that be so when this whole forum is based on inciting hatred towards one religion.....jehovah's witnesses.......wow this is funny!
scrapmama777- i started here by accident as well. this site has been a valuable asset when it comes to dealing with things that i have issues with when it comes to being a jw. i was always told that there is two sides to every story, you have to take both, pull out all the information, formalize it, and make the best decision from that. what i have learned and experienced from being here has answered many of the questions that i had and raised new ones. has it strengthened my faith in God? in Jesus? yes! has it helped me appreciate the faults and issues with the organization? yes. but it also made me realize much of what i already knew. that if this is an organization directed by God, then why so many issues and flip flops, why so much hurt and pain for so many in and out? Sit back, enjoy the ride, and keep an open mind when looking at both sides of the issue.
just had to nice jws at my door trying to place a brochure about the convention.
this has probably been covered here before, i know the memorial attendance drive but not the convention one?
i told them i am an inactive witness and their smiles quickly turned to frowns and said yeah, sorry i'm done, no thank you.
chickpea nailed it with the irregular ones. also, it is great boost to get people to aux pioneer in the summer months with some easy hours.
just a couple of set of ground rules i would like to set for this.
frequently, one of two options for those who want to leave jw's are 1) a purposeful, public, resignation (or disassociation as jw's call it) vs 2) what is commonly called in the ex jw internet world, "the fade".
i know that emotions run deep on this subject for good reason, because of what is at stake, and all that is perceived to be lost.
This is a great post. For me, with all my issues facing me, my two options are to a) fade physically and mentally, stop going to meetings and living to the standard set by an uneducated board of directors or b) fade mentally, still live like the JW but just know it is all BS. Where am I now? Wanting option (a) but working with (b). So many people have opinions as to what to do, but the only one who can really answer this is me. I weigh pros and cons all the time. Lose family and gain my freedom in every sense of the word, or keep family and feel as if I am in bondage at least physically. The loss of family is devastating to me. I think of the scripture where Jesus said if you give up mother/father/family for the sake of him you will gain so much more. I really have a hard time with that one on very many levels. There are relationships you just can't replace. You will never be able to take back memories and although you can make new ones with someone else, the ones you had will never be built upon if you lose that relationship. I liken it to building a skyscraper. You start building a 100 floor skyscraper but at floor 20 you stop for whatever reason. You then pick up and start building another skyscraper next to it. As you reach the top of your new skyscraper, the other one still sits there unfinished. Knowing what potential that one had and where it could be today devastates you because it is unfinished. And no matter how incredible the new one is, the unfinished one will always remind you of what could have been. That is why I hold on to family and my decision is so difficult. You make a comment about how much do "you value YOU". I have a very high sense of value for myself. I think that is why I am in the dilemma. I also care deeply for others. That is part of what makes me ME.
Thank you for starting this post.
hi guys!
i love reading everybody's posts on here.
it's neat to see where the journey has taken them.
i'm on a covert operation. i am still in and to mostly everyone but my wife, i am doing fairly well. however, i know this is not for me and just stuck right now on getting out. till then, i am behind enemy lines.
i was thinking about this site and the purpose it serves.
each person has a different reason to be on here.
some of us are in and want out, some of are out and need to use this as a way of communicating the hurt and repression and anger that they have experienced whether self induced or wt induced.
Rebel8, as my name states, I am stuck between a rock and a hard place right now and physically cannot leave or fade yet. Mentally, I have been fading for some time. My time will come soon. I hope sooner than later. What started this thread for me was I accept the punishment if found on here. Not that I am looking for trouble. I just think that for me, I see even more hypocrisy in the JWs by those who come on here to defend their religion when they are doing the opposite of what they are being told. It was merely an observation and I would be curious as to what they have to say.
i was thinking about this site and the purpose it serves.
each person has a different reason to be on here.
some of us are in and want out, some of are out and need to use this as a way of communicating the hurt and repression and anger that they have experienced whether self induced or wt induced.
I was thinking about this site and the purpose it serves. Each person has a different reason to be on here. Some of us are in and want out, some of are out and need to use this as a way of communicating the hurt and repression and anger that they have experienced whether self induced or WT induced. Some of us are here because we passed the pain along time ago and are here to help others. Some of us are just lost and trying to figure things out. There there is the one group who want to defend the organization. Since I am a physically active member, mentally faded, would I not be DF'd for being here? Even if it was to defend my beliefs as a pro-organization/pro-Jehovah person, my just being here would cause me to be DF'd as I could be open to having apostacy creep in on me and harm the congregation. Why are there ones on here like Reniaa who do this? Are they exempt from all forms of punishment because they are trying to save their brothers? I am just trying to reason how someone can come onto a forbidden site such as this and try to save someone when they themselves are violating the rules of the society.
And before you start your reply, remember, in WT world suggestions by the society are nothing more than a nice way of saying that "this is the rule." For example, it is each individuals decision to get a tattoo. Get one and make it public knowledge and find out what happens. A lot happens. Voting is a personal decision even though we are politically neutral. Vote and see what happens when you are removed from elder or MS. Dress and grooming is a personal decision. Try wearing a shirt with a beer logo on it outside of the KH. Enjoy the elder's counsel.
or maybe you are still a zealous jw.
i became a regular pioneer while i was still in high school.
i used to set my alarm for 5 am three times a week and walk a few blocks to do streetwork.
Zealous? No. Not to the degree most around me were or are. I put on a good show though. You could sell tickets to my show.
