Hi all... I noticed on the bottom of the first article in very small print....<b>Appeared in Awake! October 8, 1993</b>.... can someone look this up and verify this information.... let's see if they've changed the article... I don't remember this one... and I was in the borg at the time...
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Uh, Maybe I'm "Slow", But....
by AGuest indid i miss something?!!
is sometime trying to send a "cya" message to the... well, i guess the media and general pub... no, wait... i know... their "members"!
we don't condone... or hide... child molestation!
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An End To Df'ing..Would It Satisfy You?
by Englishman ini was just wondering if an end to disfellowshipping might be enough to solve some other major problems, as well as deflecting criticism away from the society.. people could act on their own conscience over blood, for example.
sure, the wtbts could still say it was wrong to have a blood transfusion if they felt so inclined, but at least people would be able to make a decision based on a belief rather than acting out of fear of shunning.
it would certainly take the heat off the wtbts.. it would also take away the rage that exs feel when their families are instructed to shun them, so that the ex becomes a major and formidable opponent against the witness religion.
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LOL Eman....
Nope... I'd keep me spurs on... like em anyways... lol... even if DF stopped, there are still the other issues... and the pain and damage that DF has already caused, and the years of families ripped apart... having it finally done with won't fix that...
Tanx again eman...
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An End To Df'ing..Would It Satisfy You?
by Englishman ini was just wondering if an end to disfellowshipping might be enough to solve some other major problems, as well as deflecting criticism away from the society.. people could act on their own conscience over blood, for example.
sure, the wtbts could still say it was wrong to have a blood transfusion if they felt so inclined, but at least people would be able to make a decision based on a belief rather than acting out of fear of shunning.
it would certainly take the heat off the wtbts.. it would also take away the rage that exs feel when their families are instructed to shun them, so that the ex becomes a major and formidable opponent against the witness religion.
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Hey Eman...
Pass me a b&t... tanx :)
ahhhh... that's the stuff...I don't think that changing the DF policy would change the predicament the society finds itself in now... it's made slight modifications in the past and it didn't change much... The R&F would see it much like they see it now... The society will never do a 360 on dfing... never... it's too strongly entrenched, used to advantage, and would actually take at least one full generation to change it, as in all of it...
Would changing it affect those on our side of the issue?.. I don't think so... too many people have been affected by it, it's hurt too many families... it has a strong historical significance with the WT, like the blood thing... It could and would still be used against them... as it should be.
As far as solving their problems... those are fundamental... the org is built on them... their doctrine frankly sucks... their history is full of incredibly stupid mistakes, and the leadership has not been inclined to "fix" any of them... Anyone who thinks the org is not fully aware of the problems it has must be dreaming... four words.."Freddy 'the oracle' Franz"... the WT just doesn't care.... the org is not about "truth", religious or otherwise, it's a publishing house that has a quirky and unique way of "selling" it's publications. As a business, which is exactly what the WT is, it's going to be business as usual, until the profits slide...those are the only "changes" people see... where the org is vulnerable... It's cash vulnerable... and it's lawsuit vulnerable... and that's where changes are made...
The only real way to "fix" the problems is to admit fully they were wrong, and let people choose to continue with them with freedom of thought, conscience, etc.... They would have to adopt an incredible and sudden amount of tolerance... can you see them ever doing that???? They'd have to develop a "Truth and Reconciliation Committee"... and deal with the fall out... Hmmm... wonder what would happen to the publishing company if that were to happen.... There is no way the WT will ever do that... It would mean the end for them... for sure.As for the future of the WT, I see them expanding more in the underdeveloped countries and waning in the developed ones... As the trend suggests today... The boys behind the big wooden desks know it... how could they maintain the corp. if they didn't, .... They know where their bread is buttered ... Wouldn't it be cool if in 20+ years.. they end up selling up in Brooklyn and moving their headquarters to Africa... or South America... LOL. America can become pretty expensive... just like France did... :)
So, IMHO, our teeth are safe... we will never look bad for what we're trying to do... it's only the R&F dubs who think so... just look at this site...
Thanks Eman... needed the rant... lol
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Why are the witnesses suddenly smiling at me?
by Inquiry inhi all..... i was starting to feel like i was walking around outside in me undies.... is there something new going on... people who normally always looked at me with disdain are suddenly smiling and making friendly.... is anything up????
just last week, i was sure i was still satan's spawn....???
weeeeeiiiirrrdddd..... inq :)
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Hey LB....
Well, I haven't gotten a WT for years now.... are they trying to get us old 'postates back????? New old light, old new and new again light???? lol
LOL @ chi chi.... I will not comply.... ;)
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Why are the witnesses suddenly smiling at me?
by Inquiry inhi all..... i was starting to feel like i was walking around outside in me undies.... is there something new going on... people who normally always looked at me with disdain are suddenly smiling and making friendly.... is anything up????
just last week, i was sure i was still satan's spawn....???
weeeeeiiiirrrdddd..... inq :)
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Hi all....
I was starting to feel like I was walking around outside in me undies.... is there something new going on... people who normally always looked at me with disdain are suddenly smiling and making friendly.... is anything up???? Just last week, I was sure I was still Satan's spawn....???Weeeeeiiiirrrdddd....
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Article on Kuro5hin
by mikepence ini have submitted an article on kuro5hin.org ( http://www.kuro5hin.org).
please stop on over, login and go to "moderate submissions" and vote for my article to be published on the site!.
mike
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Hey Mike...
Great article... well written, thanks....
I also like the site...Toodles
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A Cautionary Tale For Newbie Ex's.
by Englishman inone of the best parts of leaving the jw religion is the discovery that the majority of people worldly people are kind and decent folk, who are willing to be helpful if given the opportunity to do so.. but!
exiting dubs who have been born into the faith are definitely going to be somewhat naive in certain situations that can leave them open to abuse by cunning perpetrators.. i well remember my first couple of years out of dubdom.
i wanted to try anything and everything.
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LOL EMAN
And there's not only swingers out there.... there's Amway people too!!!!! AAAAAHHHHH! If you ever get into a crowd of them... run for the hills boys....
LOL
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This is a really good one....
by Inquiry inhey all..... i recently heard the funniest prank..... a neighbour of mine came over, with a beer i might add.... nice fellow... and during conversation found out that i used to be a witness... he was asking me questions and then he got this funny smirk on his face... i thought it was something i said, so i asked him what i did.... he started laughing and said he was just remembering what he and a friend did about three years ago around christmas time..... i had been out of the borg for over a year at that point.... apparently, these two pranksters... of course whilst drinking deeply of the barley and hops laden waters of life.... went to a canadian tire, bought $75 worth of christmas lights (about $5 usd...lol) and in the wee hours of a sunday morning... put them up around my old kh and lit them up for all to see when they came in for the 10 am meeting..... i asked around and apparently it's true!
laugh!
i thought i'd die!!!!!
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I thought you would like that one...
I love Christmas too... so does my son.... I get the place all decked out. All the local dubs know where I live so they get to see everything... I can hear them tch tching.... I get a big kick out of it....
Hybrid... you gotta get a pic if you do it.... you can email it to me.. I wish I had a pic of my old KH decked out in christmas lights.... I would frame it and put it up on the wall.... lol... I know... easily amused.... lol
I like the nativity scene idea... I think I'll run it past my neighbour and see what he says.....lol... now that would be cool... or a decorated tree.... the hall has lots of pine trees around it... man that would be cool!
It'll give the kids a bit of a thrill.... (grinning)
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This is a really good one....
by Inquiry inhey all..... i recently heard the funniest prank..... a neighbour of mine came over, with a beer i might add.... nice fellow... and during conversation found out that i used to be a witness... he was asking me questions and then he got this funny smirk on his face... i thought it was something i said, so i asked him what i did.... he started laughing and said he was just remembering what he and a friend did about three years ago around christmas time..... i had been out of the borg for over a year at that point.... apparently, these two pranksters... of course whilst drinking deeply of the barley and hops laden waters of life.... went to a canadian tire, bought $75 worth of christmas lights (about $5 usd...lol) and in the wee hours of a sunday morning... put them up around my old kh and lit them up for all to see when they came in for the 10 am meeting..... i asked around and apparently it's true!
laugh!
i thought i'd die!!!!!
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Hey all....
I recently heard the funniest prank....
A neighbour of mine came over, with a beer I might add.... nice fellow... and during conversation found out that I used to be a witness... he was asking me questions and then he got this funny smirk on his face... I thought it was something I said, so I asked him what I did.... he started laughing and said he was just remembering what he and a friend did about three years ago around christmas time....
I had been out of the borg for over a year at that point...Apparently, these two pranksters... of course whilst drinking deeply of the barley and hops laden waters of life.... went to a Canadian Tire, bought $75 worth of Christmas lights (about $5 USD...lol) and in the wee hours of a Sunday morning... put them up around my old KH and lit them up for all to see when they came in for the 10 am meeting..... I asked around and apparently it's true!
Laugh! I thought I'd die!!!!! I would've paid money to see that....
LOL....Just thought I'd share that....
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Pedophilia Issue Reaches the US President
by Sam Beli ina few minutes ago, during a live press conference, president bush was asked if he thought cardinal law was acting swiftly enough to correct the problems in the catholic church.. bushs answer was that he thought the church would clean-up the problems.
he said that he has confidence in the cardinal.
cardinal law is a good man, he said.. sam beli.
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roflmao ....
Thanks for the belly laugh Sam....Inq