Posts by Makemeanunbeliever

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Since you left, have you become more moral?

by Coded Logic in

respect.

sympathy.

gossip.

Makemeanunbeliever

Divergent

"I believe that the more surpressed a person is, the more they would go wild once they leave! JW's are a surpressed lot & it's not surprising that many who leave would experiment which various activities which they were forbidden to engage in before

However, the perspective of morals is something which is subjective. Smoking? I don't smoke myself, nor would I encourage it, but I won't go as far as saying that a person who smokes is not moral. Same thing with drugs & getting drunk. Homosexuality? You would have a different perspective if you were born differently. Sex before marriage? I see nothing wrong with that, just practice safe sex!

Anyway, from personal experience, the things you mentioned above do not apply to those who I've seen who left, except for the fornication part, which I don't believe is wrong. Withregard to the things which the OP mentioned, I would say that they are DEFINITELY more more ethical / aware in that sense. I can speak as one of them! =)"

Thats the problem with society today. Everyone has a different definition of "morals". No wonder the world has gone to hell in a hand basket. Someone or something has to set the standards. No one knows right from wrong anymore.

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Since you left, have you become more moral?

by Coded Logic in

respect.

sympathy.

gossip.

Makemeanunbeliever

I watched carefully those who left through the 30+ years when I was a regular JW. I never once saw anyone who left become more "moral". Actually quite the contrary. Smoking, drugs, sex with same sex, fornication and drunken recklessness most times. Stack atheist on that moral morass.

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WTS checklist for Elders to destroy evidence?

by DarioKehl in

https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/3t1yp7/marc_and_cora_posted_on_utube/.

hot off the presses from exjw reddit earlier today.

massive leak in uk.. if true, this is big (and very, very disturbing)..

Makemeanunbeliever

Nothing new. Personal opinion has no place in a court of law. Just the facts.

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Watch: Comedian Lewis Black Reads 18 Year Old's Awesome Resignation Letter To The Mormon Church

by Captain Schmideo2 in

jw
friends

http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbadash/watch_comedian_lewis_black_reads_18_year_old_s_resignation_letter_to_the_mormon_church(warning!

language!

).

Makemeanunbeliever

If one cant make their points without harsh profanity then it wont make deep inroads of change.

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Letter to be read at meeting this week about the downsize

by dropoffyourkeylee in

a family member who is a bethelite informed me today that there is a letter to be read soon ( this week or next) concerning the downsizing.

so probably someone who has their midweek meeting early in the week will be able to fill in the details.

Makemeanunbeliever

It huge to yall but to JW's not so much.

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The Shit Has Just Started Hitting The Fan For The WT Corporation, Nightmare Stage!

by Brokeback Watchtower in

as with any course which is based on pure wishful thinking(which is the wt corporation based on) has different stages.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/wishful_thinking.

some psychologists believe that positive thinking is able to positively influence behavior and so bring about better results.

this is called "pygmalion effect".

Makemeanunbeliever

MAGNUM:I think that it's being overly simplistic to make a comparison between the JW organization and other 'large corporations'. The situations are different, but even if they weren't, it must be noted that large corporations can rapidly lose momentum as the winds change. The winds have changed and are changing in JW land.

Also, you indicate that the fact that the org is "funded by donations" and "has millions of free laborers" is what will keep it going. I think the fact that it's dependent on such be will be its downfall. Recruiting from the field is not working, and I think a lot of those on the inside are going to wake up or become complacent, so I think their numbers are going to go down and they won't have as many to donate money and time and efforts. Also, I think that some, if not many, are going to donate less.

I think the JW leaders might sense this, and that's at least partly why they've taken over Kingdom Halls, set congregations up to make monthly payments, etc.

I stand by my statement. Many here "want" to see more or "wish" for more. Wishing and wanting does not make something so. The fact is they are handling the logistics for the long haul. The setbacks have led to cutbacks, streamlining and simplification. Many revel in the fact of the cutbacks but the truth is they will secure a longevity that will prob outlast us.

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The Shit Has Just Started Hitting The Fan For The WT Corporation, Nightmare Stage!

by Brokeback Watchtower in

as with any course which is based on pure wishful thinking(which is the wt corporation based on) has different stages.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/wishful_thinking.

some psychologists believe that positive thinking is able to positively influence behavior and so bring about better results.

this is called "pygmalion effect".

Makemeanunbeliever

Many here are uneducated in the momentum of a large corporation and its ability to withstand serious setbacks. How much more so one funded by donations, is tax exempt and has millions of free laborers?

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Hey you! Murderers you!

by umbertoecho in

hello, people, fellow freaks, thinkers, out-raged ones.

this is about my lovely wonderful brain dead jw sister and her equally piss weak jw husband and how they treat their own son.

my nephew!!.

Makemeanunbeliever

Every religion has their "extremists". Sucks, but thats life.

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The Watchtower Corporation Ability To Survive In A Changing Society Following The Edicts Of A Bronze Age Moral Code

by Brokeback Watchtower in

what are the negative and positives of this whole affair.

will they be able to make some positive changes that will insure their survival for say 5 decades?

will they survive the public scrutiny that the information age has brought upon us?

Makemeanunbeliever

Yep halls are still crowded and growing.

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Do you believe Jehovah's Witnesses' Governing Body is the "faithful slave"?

by Marvin Shilmer in

this question is known to be posed by jws to other jws as an acid test of loyalty.

i'm not the first to notice what i'm about to point out and comment accordingly, but today i felt compelled to add a short article on my blog highlighting the new language that governing body member geoffrey jackson supplies as a response.

a person who honestly hesitates to respond with a robust "yes!

Makemeanunbeliever

They have the greatest possibility atm from my view point.