Posts by Makemeanunbeliever

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Why would anyone choose to support Jehovah’s Witnesses?

by Half banana in

what is the point of supporting a belief which began as a bronze age ox-headed idol called yahweh... in a religion designed for illiterate peasants now appropriated by a money-driven cult with a one hundred and forty six year unbroken record of total failure of its bible based predictions?.

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Makemeanunbeliever

Facile argument.

Who is harmed when someone is murdered? Pretty easy to figure that one out.

Who is harmed when someone is raped? Ditto.

Who is harmed when 2 consenting adults engage in sex privately?

Why are y'all changing the subject? My logic stands. However I don't personally care if others play with certain excrement body parts, but my God does. So I'm banking with him. His ballgame, his rules. Plus immorality spreads diseases, monogamy, not so much. Oh, and theres the procreation aspect. Besides, this thread was not about homosexuals. If you want to discuss homosexuality start your own thread.

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Why would anyone choose to support Jehovah’s Witnesses?

by Half banana in

what is the point of supporting a belief which began as a bronze age ox-headed idol called yahweh... in a religion designed for illiterate peasants now appropriated by a money-driven cult with a one hundred and forty six year unbroken record of total failure of its bible based predictions?.

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Makemeanunbeliever

Now as to answer your "real question". The ancient Jewish faith was flawed but they were the chosen nation. No doubt surrounding nations thought them crazy and they probably warned their young ones of pitfalls. So the comparison to Christendom could very well fit today.

Here's the problem. If all religions are flawed, this reasoning will prevent people from changing beliefs.

Someone who's born a Mormon, for instance, would not make a change to the JWs because while his religion might be flawed, so are the Witnesses. It's the "where shall we go?" fallacy. Absent evidence of a lack of flaws in another group, the person will stay in their current group assuming it's the "chosen religion."

And it assumes there is such a thing as a "God's people" or a "chosen nation" to begin with.

Going back to your example. Maybe the ancient Jews made up a religion just like every ancient group of peoples did. Maybe Yahweh was just a mythical as Zeus, Krishna or Ra. Maybe the Jews were crazy and the surrounding nations were right to warn their young ones.

Maybe, maybe not. I'm leaning towards the latter.

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Why would anyone choose to support Jehovah’s Witnesses?

by Half banana in

what is the point of supporting a belief which began as a bronze age ox-headed idol called yahweh... in a religion designed for illiterate peasants now appropriated by a money-driven cult with a one hundred and forty six year unbroken record of total failure of its bible based predictions?.

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Makemeanunbeliever

PS:I was not raised or born in. I converted at 25. And yes, I did study virtually all religions before converting from Presbyterian. - Makeme

Were you a homophobe before you became a JW?

Childish argument. I don't like murder, does that make me a murderphode? I don't like rape, does that make me a rapephobe? Geesh.

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Are JW's heading for the exit?

by pandorasbox1914 in

are jw's heading for the exit?

after lurking on this site for a year or so i have noticed a number of new poster's including me.

but does this indicate a massive departure for the exit?

Makemeanunbeliever

No.

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Why would anyone choose to support Jehovah’s Witnesses?

by Half banana in

what is the point of supporting a belief which began as a bronze age ox-headed idol called yahweh... in a religion designed for illiterate peasants now appropriated by a money-driven cult with a one hundred and forty six year unbroken record of total failure of its bible based predictions?.

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Makemeanunbeliever

@neverendingjourney

I personally had never heard that illustration. I was just referencing a stone everyone is familiar with. Now I see your point but I do not agree. Both our rights.

Now as to answer your "real question". The ancient Jewish faith was flawed but they were the chosen nation. No doubt surrounding nations thought them crazy and they probably warned their young ones of pitfalls. So the comparison to Christendom could very well fit today.

So far nothing has moved me enough here to "make me an unbeliever". Thank you for your passionate effort though.

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Why would anyone choose to support Jehovah’s Witnesses?

by Half banana in

what is the point of supporting a belief which began as a bronze age ox-headed idol called yahweh... in a religion designed for illiterate peasants now appropriated by a money-driven cult with a one hundred and forty six year unbroken record of total failure of its bible based predictions?.

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Makemeanunbeliever

@adjusted knowledge. Let me get this straight. Because I disagree with your opinion I must be of a poor mental state? Talk about mental gymnastics. Look I stopped going to meetings years ago. There are points here that are accurate and then there is the "mob mentality" of the few who try to impose their views on everyone. Last I checked this site was called Jehovahs-Witness not anti-Jehovahs Witness.

Yes I admit is crawling with atheist, anti JW's, gays and those bitter from past experiences. However that does not define everyones experience or viewpoint. To try or force others into your beliefs is no worse than what you decry the JW's of doing. Its a form of bullying. Im not intimidated by poor reasoning, childish antics and mob attacks. Thank you and have a nice day.

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Why would anyone choose to support Jehovah’s Witnesses?

by Half banana in

what is the point of supporting a belief which began as a bronze age ox-headed idol called yahweh... in a religion designed for illiterate peasants now appropriated by a money-driven cult with a one hundred and forty six year unbroken record of total failure of its bible based predictions?.

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Makemeanunbeliever

The OP asked and I answered. Was he just looking for "attaboys" and every viewpoint to be the same? Geesh.

My point is all religions have issues. The issues, even glaring ones, do not define "truth". If I hold a diamond to the light I see the flaws. That doesn't mean it's not a diamond. Besides looking around the creator doesn't have much to work with these days.

PS:I was not raised or born in. I converted at 25. And yes, I did study virtually all religions before converting from Presbyterian.

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Why would anyone choose to support Jehovah’s Witnesses?

by Half banana in

what is the point of supporting a belief which began as a bronze age ox-headed idol called yahweh... in a religion designed for illiterate peasants now appropriated by a money-driven cult with a one hundred and forty six year unbroken record of total failure of its bible based predictions?.

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Makemeanunbeliever

Because, regardless of its glaring flaws, it's still the best thing going atm.

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What is the alternative to JW?

by Formerbrother in

i mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.

im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?

the the bible is word?