Posts by Brocephus

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My experience with the Bethel Legal Dept. regarding a Ministerial Servant molesting a boy

by BonaFide in

the experience that follows contains some details that some might find graphic.

so be warned.. the body of elders received word that an unmarried ministerial servant, age 20, had been seen fondling a younger male bible student, age 14. the ministerial servant himself had been studying with the boy.

the ministerial servant was a quiet, timid brother.

Brocephus

Thank you Bonafide and Barbara for sharing. This confirms so many peoples suspicions, which is the Watchtower is only watching out for themselves. For those that don't understand what is so freak'n wrong about this is:

1. The brothers (not faulting you Bonafide you were brainswashed) are not allowed to follow their conscience and operate independently.

2. The Society's only concern is covering their butt and doing the bare minimun of the law, not protecting a child. Having an anonymous tipster report this incident is going to be taken less seriously than being reported by the eyewitnesses minister.

This is such a double edged sword for the society. Imagine if they did the responsible thing and urged all the Zombies at KH to take molestation seriously and act independenlty according to their conscience. Does anyone else see the witch hunt that would happen? Every grudge in the KH would now involve a molestation charge! As paranoid and petty as JWs are, it would be like the Salem Witch Trials all over. It would be freaking Hilarious, Brother "spiritually weak" takes the PO's parking spot. Next thing he knows he's in the back room accused of stared and little boys privates in the men's room during the service meeting, LOL. Now that I think of it, it was reading The Crucible at 16 that started opening my eyes to the fact that these weren't God' people, just another sad f-cked up church in American History.

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Do you carry in backcountry?

by daniel-p in

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there was another thread that got a little derailed by arguments between gun-owners and non-gun-owners, but i'd like to continue the discussion of a single topic (without rantings on gun control, please):.

do you carry a firearm while in backcountry?

either 4-wheeling, backpacking, or doing ranch-related work, etc?

Brocephus

I carry in the back and front country. Only two ways the cops will ever find out. 1, if I am doing something criminal which i don't do. 2, if I have to use it and in that case a misdemeanor would be worth it.

Never ever consent to a search...support your local criminal defense attorney.

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How can I prevent oil stains or clean the oil stains in my garage?

by asilentone in

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i would appreciate your helpful suggestions.

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Brocephus

Stop parking your car in the garage.

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David Carradine commits suicide

by John Doe in

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http://movies.yahoo.com/news/movies.ap.org/actor-david-carradine-found-dead-bangkok-ap.

Brocephus

Maybe this was an INXS style auto-erotic asphxiation type of deal? They are saying he was nude and their were "several" ropes around "several" parts of his body. It often progresses to suspending onesself during autoerotic asphixiation, heightens the pleasure supposedly. Sometimes you slip and get your neck caught and you strangle. I wrote a paper on it once in school. I came across some crazy stories in my research.

Or....

Uma Thurman was seen leaving the seen in a Yellow Jumpsuit... sorry had to say it.

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Keeping the congregation clean- from the wickedness of the retarded

by JimmyPage in

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well i saw my parents again.

and i just had to bring up this subject.

a certain person i grew up with named "megan" is disfellowshipped.. "mom," i asked, "isn't megan mentally challenged?

Brocephus

I grew up with 3 other boys in my Congo. One was definately slow but not quite retarded. The other 2 guys died very young one at 18 one at 20. I felt an obligation to look out for the slow guy as we did when kids. Tried to find him after made fade when the other guys died, I saw him once he was so high/drunk and insane I couldn't handle him. Last I heard he got DF'd and reinstated twice and the third DF'ing they told him to get lost. In addition to being slow he had an abusive father that was a couple of bricks short of a load. I think they made him a MS, shit he is probably a CO by now. It's disgusting to me and I think Child Services should be involved in stuff like this.

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Phrases NOT to say if you are in a judicial committee meeting for apostasy

by BonaFide in

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i have only been on a couple of committee's for actual apostasy, and in one the brother never showed, and in the other, the person said they don't want to be a witness.

but in having experience as an elder and a c.o., and in reading this forum, here are my suggestions.. do not say:.

"i don't believe that the faithful and discreet slave is god's channel" - why not?

Brocephus

If I could do it again. I'd show up with a deck of cards, a cooler of beer and light a Stoogie and start dealing Texas Hold Em!

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Witness parents using "loophole" to associate with Disfellowshiped children! threats?

by Witness 007 in

in my old congregation there are many disfellowshiped young ones.

the parents use the watchtower rule that they need "assistance" from their children therefore can have them over and associate with them more freely.

this has clearly been abused as disfellowshiped kids taking the whole family on hloidays out to dinner, etc....but the elders turn a blind eye.

Brocephus

There is no difference Dinah. That is why so many people stay in their self-esteem is too low or their Bull Shit tolerance it too high. It's a cult that attracts people that equate = spirtual and emotional abuse with love. That's why it's so hard to get those still in out, they are scared to be with out that crutch. It's been one of my personal hangups in relationships. I have noticed than being needed or having excessive demands but on me some how makes me feel loved. It's tough sometimes to tell the difference between a healthy and unhealthy relationship for me sometimes.

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Religious Fundamentalist Terrorist Strike Again?

by Justitia Themis in

it doesn't appear police know the motive for this shooting, but it seems there is a high chance it is religous terrorism.

this doctor has repeatedly put his life on the line to fight fundamentalism.

abortion provider dr. george tiller killed at church.

Brocephus

Sammieswife: I am certian that you are indeed certain of your stance. That was never in doubt.

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Super serious question

by 5thGeneration in

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please no sarcastic crap from mean members.. i had a family member kill herself over being raised by a c.o.

who told her that it ruined their life and that she was a mistake.. i have a 10 page report from a psychiatrist back, who was also a jw, in the eighties that is pretty incredible.. now, i was also born jw with a 100 year "truth" heritage to cause me the same guilt.. and it may be drivng me the same way.

i feel the same way my aunt felt.

Brocephus

First off I am sorry to hear about your loss.

I don't have much in the way of books but I did go through a 4-day program in 2004 that helped me a lot. I had guilt, anger, pain all of the stuff you are going through and this helped me a lot. I think you are in California and the next dates there are in August in LA but here in Texas we hold it once a month. The website is www.lifeenrichmentbootcamp.com there is a psychologist endorsement in one of the video clips. It might be good to share this with anyone you are seeing as well. If you are up for it I would be more than happy to buy your ticket.

If you have any questions email me at [email protected] I meet about 1 or 2 ex JW's every month at this event and they get a lot of healing.

Either way, good luck I'll be praying for your healing.

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Religious Fundamentalist Terrorist Strike Again?

by Justitia Themis in

it doesn't appear police know the motive for this shooting, but it seems there is a high chance it is religous terrorism.

this doctor has repeatedly put his life on the line to fight fundamentalism.

abortion provider dr. george tiller killed at church.

Brocephus

sammieleeswife: You are completely wrapped up in the emotion of the situation. About 80% of what you say I agree with but you aren't debating anything. You are just effusing emotion that I guess you feel makes your position more correct. Pathos is the weakest form of argumentation and I am looking for a little more than that to provoke my intellect.

keyser: You are making this too black and white. Because someone understands and even symphathizes with a killers logic is far from condoning it. I understand Bin Laden's logic, he hates the U.S. He feels the U.S. is the reason his people are oppressed. He wants to kill Americans. 9/11 makes sense to me, doesn't mean I condone it for one second. I'd be the first one to kick ol' Bin Laden's ass given the chance. You are trying to paint anyone who is anti-abortion into the "look he wanted the doctor to get shot!" camp. You are looking for one little snippet to take out of context and say "LOOK I TOLD YOU... HE'S A CRAZY HOMICIDAL PRO-LIFER!" You are doing the same thing guys like Bill Oreilly and Rush Limbaugh do on the other side of the political spectrum. That is not intellectual honesty, which is all I am asking for from the posters.

CNN, FOXNEWS, TALK RADIO and other forms of media are all biased. You can get valuable information from them but you have to process it and think for yourself. They are owned by corporations who must make profit. They fragment the population and pander to their audience to sell more advertising space. Let's come together and discuss things honestly and intellectually, puleeeeeeze!