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  New here

  by FinchAndWeston in

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  hi, everyone, just wanted to say hi to y'all.

  i've been lurking for a long time... .

  i only wished i had visited sites like these before!

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  JWinprotest

  Hi Finch and Weston, welcome. The conventions were a big eye opener for me as well. All the warnings for brothers on the low end of the toadem pole not to save seats and telling us how unloving it was to do so. Then a family with 2 or 3 kids and about 100lbs of baggage had to climb 4 flights of stairs to finally find some seats(unless, as you said, you wanted to take your chances in the stampede).Meanwhile you see all the bigshots (CO's, bethelites etc) who are obviously allowed to enter the facility before the doors open with the choice seating, some even sitting in the private boxes pretending to carry out some administrative function.

  One year as we were walking back to our car, we were crossing the driveway that led to the underground parking. We were in a crowd of about 25-30 people. An attendant jumped in front of the crowd and stopped pedestrian traffic so cars can exit the garage. 3 cars exited the garage, 1 of them was a CO and the last car was the DO, I didn't recognize the guy in the middle, but I can be sure he ranked just as high as the other 2. These guys try to tell us that there is no rank among the Witnesses......bull!
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  Portuguese get jipped

  by JWinprotest in

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  not sure if anyone else has heard, but here in the portuguese district that covers southern ontario and montreal had their convention cut from 3 days to 2 days.

  when it was announced they told the congregation that they would be getting the same program in 2 days......but weeks later they were told that they could not take part in the invitation campaign because the theme of the public talk was printed on the flyer and they were not having a public talk.

  does anyone know the reason why they would do this to just this one group?

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  JWinprotest

  Sorry Heaven I was posting while you sent yours, thanks for the tip as well.
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  Portuguese get jipped

  by JWinprotest in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  not sure if anyone else has heard, but here in the portuguese district that covers southern ontario and montreal had their convention cut from 3 days to 2 days.

  when it was announced they told the congregation that they would be getting the same program in 2 days......but weeks later they were told that they could not take part in the invitation campaign because the theme of the public talk was printed on the flyer and they were not having a public talk.

  does anyone know the reason why they would do this to just this one group?

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  JWinprotest

  Thank you cattails on the PM

  Not sure if they will fade the port congs anytime soon, but at the very least I think they are looking to eliminate their assemblies and conventions. I think this year was a test to see how many would attend an english assembly instead. In fact I know many who have done just that......idiots. My mother-in law said she would ask her CO as to why they cut back, I will update you with his response.

  BTW lilyflor that's how I met my wife as well....maybe holy spirit was directing it....lol!!
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  Portuguese get jipped

  by JWinprotest in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  not sure if anyone else has heard, but here in the portuguese district that covers southern ontario and montreal had their convention cut from 3 days to 2 days.

  when it was announced they told the congregation that they would be getting the same program in 2 days......but weeks later they were told that they could not take part in the invitation campaign because the theme of the public talk was printed on the flyer and they were not having a public talk.

  does anyone know the reason why they would do this to just this one group?

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  JWinprotest

  I forgot to ask.....I'm new here, what is a PM?
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  Portuguese get jipped

  by JWinprotest in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  not sure if anyone else has heard, but here in the portuguese district that covers southern ontario and montreal had their convention cut from 3 days to 2 days.

  when it was announced they told the congregation that they would be getting the same program in 2 days......but weeks later they were told that they could not take part in the invitation campaign because the theme of the public talk was printed on the flyer and they were not having a public talk.

  does anyone know the reason why they would do this to just this one group?

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  JWinprotest

  Not sure how wide spread it was but at least in southern Ontario, in the mid 90's all the portuguese congregations were shut down. All the brothers and sisters were told to attend the english congregation in their territory. I remember because several were sent to my congregation. Many of them didn't speak a stitch of english. They would just sit there at the meetings with this blank look on their face nodding along at what the brother on the platform was saying, wondering what the portuguese had done to be punished by Jehovah.

  Then a few years later the society noticed a lot of the portuguese brothers were pissed off and leaving "the truth", so they reinstated a few of the congregations but not all. When many of the ones that left never came back, rumors started circulating that this was Jehovah's way of cleansing the Portuguese congregations and rid them of the unfaithfuls. Unfortunately for them however, many, especially the younger ones remained in the english and now they are left with an aging, dwindling group, who would never complain no matter what you take away from them, or ask them to do.

  Sorry if you were looking for more cattails, but I don't know many of the facts myself, I'm just going by how I saw it.
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  Portuguese get jipped

  by JWinprotest in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  not sure if anyone else has heard, but here in the portuguese district that covers southern ontario and montreal had their convention cut from 3 days to 2 days.

  when it was announced they told the congregation that they would be getting the same program in 2 days......but weeks later they were told that they could not take part in the invitation campaign because the theme of the public talk was printed on the flyer and they were not having a public talk.

  does anyone know the reason why they would do this to just this one group?

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  JWinprotest

  Somebody told me the reason may be that they are short on brothers that can deliver talks, but I find that difficult to believe because they are already bringing in english brothers to deliver talks and having them translated by a Portuguese brother, so why wouldn't they just get more. I'm not Portuguese but they seem to always get the short end of the stick. First, having all their congregations abolished back in the mid 90's only to be reinstated a few years later. Then I see witnesses from Montreal travelling 5 hours for one day conventions ( which is unheard of here). Last year a Portuguese congregation in the area was transfered to a KH where the majority would have to travel 30 minutes as opposed to 5 min, so they can give their spot to the up and coming Tamil congregation (their rate of recruiting was much more superior to the portuguese). Now this?
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  Portuguese get jipped

  by JWinprotest in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  not sure if anyone else has heard, but here in the portuguese district that covers southern ontario and montreal had their convention cut from 3 days to 2 days.

  when it was announced they told the congregation that they would be getting the same program in 2 days......but weeks later they were told that they could not take part in the invitation campaign because the theme of the public talk was printed on the flyer and they were not having a public talk.

  does anyone know the reason why they would do this to just this one group?

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  JWinprotest

  Not sure if anyone else has heard, but here in the Portuguese district that covers southern Ontario and Montreal had their convention cut from 3 days to 2 days. When it was announced they told the congregation that they would be getting the same program in 2 days......but weeks later they were told that they could not take part in the invitation campaign because the theme of the public talk was printed on the flyer and they were not having a public talk. Does anyone know the reason why they would do this to just this one group? Is this something all language groups will see in the future? Any insight would be appreciated.
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  Too bad our daughter was born....

  by Albert Einstein in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  "too bad our daughter was born...., otherwise we could jehovah more fully.... ".

  thats what on many occasions our long time family friend (an elder) told us.

  believe it or not, they were saying this in her presence (she was 16 at the time)!!!.

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  JWinprotest

  Our cong does not include the birth of a child in the announcements in the Service meeting does anyone elses?
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  Long time reader.....first time poster

  by JWinprotest in

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  hello everyone, my wife and i are currently associated with jw's.

  my mom converted when i was 3 years old in 1975, my wife was born after her parents converted.

  about 4 years ago however, my wife and i have seen many things that have discouraged us enough to start doing some research into the validity of this religion.

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  JWinprotest

  Thanks everyone for your kind words. That's why I wrote in, because I quickly noticed the amount of support many received on this forum.You know when my second daughter was born, out of 110 publishers, we got 2 phone calls the entire 2 weeks that we were missing to find out if everyone was ok. I'll bet if I were new or studying the entire congregation would have organized a rotation of sisters providing meals and house cleaning services. Boy this feels good......looking forward to spewing out more soon. Although a part of me is worried someone reading may recognize who I am.
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  Long time reader.....first time poster

  by JWinprotest in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hello everyone, my wife and i are currently associated with jw's.

  my mom converted when i was 3 years old in 1975, my wife was born after her parents converted.

  about 4 years ago however, my wife and i have seen many things that have discouraged us enough to start doing some research into the validity of this religion.

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  JWinprotest

  Hello everyone, my wife and I are currently associated with JW's. My mom converted when I was 3 years old in 1975, my wife was born after her parents converted. About 4 years ago however, my wife and I have seen many things that have discouraged us enough to start doing some research into the validity of this religion. Much to our horror, we now understand why the organization fights so hard to keep its members away from the internet. Needless to say, my wife and I are both convinced that this is not the truth, in fact there are not many religious organizations out there that are further from it. At first, we decided for the sake of not getting disfellowshipped we would just go through the motions. I was an MS at the time and was very agressively being groomed to become an elder. I eventually resigned, because I found it more and more difficult to give talks on subjects I did not believe in, citing health problems as the reason. Even though we were frustrated we accepted this new lifestyle of living a lie for the sake of keeping the family together. (Although my parents are divorsed, primarily due to the WTBS)Everything was ok until my daughter started school. She got invitations to birthday parties, she was introduced to Christmas festivities among other holidays, and of course the national anthem. At this point we have decided that our children will not be subjected to a JW upbringing, however on more than one occasion my daughter started singing the national anthem and other holiday songs at the KH. We immediately would hush her up, hoping no one else heard, but a few months ago after telling her to stop singing my daughter gave me this sad and utterly confused look on her face, and it just broke my heart to pieces. She was so proud that she knew all these songs by heart and she wanted to show off for her friends at the KH, and I give her this stern warning never to sing those songs outside the home again. It was then that I turned to my wife and for the first time told her I want out. The problem is that my wife and her mom have this incredible bond, they are almost like best friends, and she told me she does not want to jeopardize that. So now I'm stuck, trapped in this pool of lies, and there is nothing I can do about it. Over the last year I have been compiling scriptures and evidence from the internet should the day come that we break the news to our families and explain, should they let us, why we are leaving. I must thank the people on this forum as most of my best material is from here. I am really sorry for going on so long, I just wanted to give everyone a little background as to what I am going through. Thanks for listening.