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  Stupidest JW meeting answers

  by GapingMouth in

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  i was thinking about some stupid non-sensical answers i have heard over the years.

  "we all know the blue whale is the biggest fish"

  "we were on the ministry and met a coloured couple.

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  JoJoJones

  White Dove, oops, you're probably right!!
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  Stupidest JW meeting answers

  by GapingMouth in

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  2. friends

  i was thinking about some stupid non-sensical answers i have heard over the years.

  "we all know the blue whale is the biggest fish"

  "we were on the ministry and met a coloured couple.

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  JoJoJones

  I think that the Jehovah's Witnesses' version of God, as taught them by the WTBTS, is so different from what God truly is, what He is truly like. This makes God ('Jehovah') seem like a rigid taskmaster, and He isn't. That is why He sent Jesus to us. I think that God loves us very much and wants us to be happy; He wants the best for us. As far as as a "stupid" comment at a Watchtower meeting, it wasn't really so much stupid as ignorant. A child said that children are born, (made, conceived) because of their fathers, with a little help from the mothers (nine months worth). Well, I suppose that was pretty funny, but I can't help wondering just how much JWs know about genetics, genomes, mitochondria, and so forth, because half of the 48 chromosomes that make babies comes from the fathers and the other half come from the mothers. It's 50/50, by gummy! And the mitochondria is passed down through the mothers, the females. Anyway, I wonder where this little boy got his information. His elder dad? Well, the sperm and the egg work together to conceive a baby. I think that JWs should be set straight about this. Grr.
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  Does the name Jehovah actually exist in the original Hebrew language?

  by Yizuman in

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  2. beliefs

  source: http://www.familybible.org/articles/messianic/jehovah.htm.

  well, then, where did the word jehovah come from?.

  thus the artificial name jehovah came into being.. (yahweh, the new encyclopedia britannica, vol.

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  JoJoJones

  I told my JW sister that I don't feel comfortable with calling God Jehovah. To me, personally, it feels disrespectful to call God Jehovah. It feels disrespectful, as it would feel to address my parents by their first names, rather than mom and dad, or mother and father. They have both passed away, but if they were alive I could never call them by their personal names. It wouldn't feel right. And I know that Jesus called God His Father, as in the prayer He shared with the apostles, "Our Father, who art in heaven"..... He didn't refer to Him as Jehovah, but as Father. That is how I personally view God, as our Heavenly Father. I know that people are disagreeing with each other here, are not always in tune with each other, but that is a poor basis, at least I think, for people to call each other names, to get hostile with each other. Agreeing to disagree is an option to that. A peaceful option that doesn't hurt anyone. I don't know myself what is the correct way to say God's name, but I wouldn't call Him His name in prayer, because I would feel that I am not showing Him true honor, respect, and worship by doing so. This is where I stand on the issue, anyway. I am not looking for a confrontation; I just wanted to express my two cents worth. Thanks.
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  Congregation "Bible Study" Comments - Week Commencing 21 September 2009

  by LUKEWARM in

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  *** lv chap.

  10 pp.

  110-120 marriage-a gift from a loving god ***.

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  JoJoJones

  It is not God who is the lowlife. The lowlife principles directing the 'rank and file' come from the WTBTS. The governing body directs the Jehovah's Witnesses, not God. The WTBTS twists everything and manipulates everyone into believing who knows what. It's crazy, and it misleads and misdirects the 'rank and file' into believing God wants such and such and doesn't want such and such from them. it is nuts! How can JWs know if they are coming or going? This religion is a shipwreck. I just want so much for it to implode and for all the passengers on this moldy old ship to be free. If only everyone could see through all the nonsense that is being shoveled down their throats by this 'religion'. Ugh!
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  LaidOff Bethelites: Weeping And Gnashing of Teeth

  by metatron in

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  don't let any of the watchtower's propaganda deceive you.

  i encountered some private conversations among witnesses about the subject and it's ugly.

  yes, there is suffering as many of these victims try to live on charity and can't find jobs in the worst economy since the depression.. some of their private observations include shock that you need a college degree for nearly any job and that the watchtower society couldn't have picked a worse time to do this to them .. all the while these complaints are discussed, i try not to show that i am astounded by their bizarre "logic".

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  I know that the people who go to Bethel are responsible for their choice to do so, and that ultimately they "made their own beds, so they have to sleep in them", but, by gummy, their expectations when they have been going to Bethel, their goals, hopes, and dreams when they go there are admirable. They really believe they are going to be serving God, and it ends up that they are being pulled around with rings in their noses by the governing body, by the WTBTS, to serve whom - - why the organization, that's whom! And it is disgusing what is expected of these people, and it is disgusting how they are treated. They become servants of an organization that is really no more than a glorified book publishing company, a pyrimid company, and a huge commune. It is nauseating to think about all the lives that have been wasted at Bethel, all the lives wasted by all Jehovah's Witnesses who have given of themselves, sincerely and genuinely given of themselves to this selfish, greedy cult. And I mean it is literally nauseating. What a waste of so many, many, many beautiful lives based on their being misled by the WTBTS. How very, very sad.
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  LaidOff Bethelites: Weeping And Gnashing of Teeth

  by metatron in

  1. jw
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  don't let any of the watchtower's propaganda deceive you.

  i encountered some private conversations among witnesses about the subject and it's ugly.

  yes, there is suffering as many of these victims try to live on charity and can't find jobs in the worst economy since the depression.. some of their private observations include shock that you need a college degree for nearly any job and that the watchtower society couldn't have picked a worse time to do this to them .. all the while these complaints are discussed, i try not to show that i am astounded by their bizarre "logic".

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  I feel so bad for people who have been in Bethel. By the time they leave this commune/corporation they must feel pretty much dumbstruck, numb. What a life people must live there. I feel for anyone and everyone who has ever been or felt stuck there! Metatron, I think you have made really good observations and comments. Thank you! The one really good thing this religion excels at is ruining people's lives! Keeping people from going to college and pursuing their potentials is a dirty rotten thing to do to them! Billy the Ex-Bethelite, I hope that someday, when you feel ready that you will share your story.
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  Our "Bible Study" with the Jehovah's Witnesses

  by garyneal in

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  my wife and i had a "bible study" with an elder and his wife yesterday (9-11-09) and the topic was marraige.

  the book we covered was "keeping yourself in god's love.

  " this particular "bible study" was based primarily on the topic we covered in the book and, of course, there was a lot of "hop scotching" of the bible.

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  I am so glad you addressed these points!! I have wondered about these things myself, about the questioning and the nonsense of being baptised into an organization. You wrote so well about these things! I think that they are manipulative tactics, and I hope you and your wife think twice about continuing your study with this couple! I'm sure they mean well. For one thing they were hooked into the JW religion themselves at one time and were so conditioned that they stopped thinking for themselves and let the WTBTS do their thinking for them. This happens to so many people in the Witness religion, and it's so sad! It makes me angry that people are taken into the JW religion like that. Now, after all the years that I have been out of that 'religion', I think some things about it are just plain silly! Again, I hope you and your think twice, very, very carefully about continuing a study with the Witnesses. Be cautious. It sounds as if you and your wife already are careful people about it. Good!!!
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  Dealing with a 'molested child' in a Judicial matter.

  by dissed in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i'm trying to respect the privacy of this individual, so forgive me if i'm a little too vague in my descriptions.. this for me, was the most emotional and difficult judicial matter that i have ever experienced.

  its been many years since this happened and i'm still troubled, and troubled for this individual.. a young sister had committed fornication and i was chosen to sit on the judicial committee.. the case didn't make sense at first.

  she was a faithful example in the congregation and was very much liked by all.

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  The things the WTBTS gets people to do! Please don't be so hard on yourself. Elders are conditioned to be kind of stony hearted. It's terrible, but it's not really their fault, I don't think. The WTBTS is responsible in the long run, not the elders. It is such a shame the decisions elders often make. It really sounds as if you and the other elders felt compassion for this girl and that you were all truly torn about the decision to make regarding her. Please forgive yourself. You wanted to do the right thing and were led to believe that disfellowshipping was the right thing to do, even though you and the other elders agonized over it. So, you all really, truly cared about this girl and wanted to do right by her. It is so sad that elders think disfellowhipping is the right thing to do, which causes people's lives to be destroyed. Shunning is a horrible thing, and it is definitely a sign of a cult. I would love for this cult to implode! All the lives that have been damaged. It is outrageous! Just please don't be so hard on yourself. You were caught up in a cult, and once people are hooked into a cult their thinking abilities are actually kind of warped I think, and it's not their fault!
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  Dealing with a 'molested child' in a Judicial matter.

  by dissed in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i'm trying to respect the privacy of this individual, so forgive me if i'm a little too vague in my descriptions.. this for me, was the most emotional and difficult judicial matter that i have ever experienced.

  its been many years since this happened and i'm still troubled, and troubled for this individual.. a young sister had committed fornication and i was chosen to sit on the judicial committee.. the case didn't make sense at first.

  she was a faithful example in the congregation and was very much liked by all.

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  The things the WTBTS gets people to do! Please don't be so hard on yourself. Elders are conditioned to be kind of stony hearted. It's terrible, but it's not really their fault, I don't think. The WTBTS is responsible in the long run, not the elders. It is such a shame the decisions elders often make. It really sounds as if you and the other elders felt compassion for this girl and that you were all truly torn about the decision to make regarding her. Please forgive yourself. You wanted to do the right thing and were led to believe that disfellowshipping was the right thing to do, even though you and the other elders agonized over it. So, you all really, truly cared about this girl and wanted to do right by her. It is so sad that elders think disfellowhipping is the right thing to do, which causes people's lives to be destroyed. Shunning is a horrible thing, and it is definitely a sign of a cult. I would love for this cult to implode! All the lives that have been damaged. It is outrageous! Just please don't be so hard on yourself. You were caught up in a cult, and once people are hooked into a cult their thinking abilities are actually kind of warped I think, and it's not their fault!
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  My Story

  by ~Jen~ in

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  i was raised a jw by very strict parents who, in my early teen years were physically and then later emotionally abusive all the while with my dad being and elder (and he still is).

  i didn't want to be a jw then but my life was all about making my parents happy which started with me being baptized at 13. my parents constantly drilled into my head that most things were "bad" and i was "bad" i constantly did whatever i could to avoid being bad.

  i had no life but then met a nice jw boy when i was 17. against my better judgement, i stayed with him and married him when i was 20. i didn't have a lot in common with him but he was really nice and was safe - he was a witness and even though i wanted to be in the world so bad i chose to be with him because he would keep me grounded, in the truth and away from where i really wanted to be because it was the right thing to do.. we were married for 7 years and have 3 sons.. for the past few years i've known that i did not want to be a jw even more and was sick of being fake.

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  Yes, welcome, Jen, and I hope you keep posting! Leaving the Jehovah's Witnesses religion was like taking in a great breath of fresh air. I have found "worldly" people to be mostly kind, caring, very decent people, who accept others unconditionally. I have such wonderful friends in the "world"! They are nothing like what the WTBTS tries to lead the Witnesses to believe. It truly is a manipulative religion, and I am so happy to be out of it. I feel bad about family members who are JWs and that I can't have normal, natural relationships with them. Though I feel sadness about that, I am certain that I made the right decision when I disassociated myself. Thanks for sharing your story, and please keep posting. I wish you and your children the best!