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  Imperfection is irrelevant. Who has the right to rule?

  by bluecanary in

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  we started this discussion on another thread, but i didn't want to derail the topic at hand.

  here's where we stand so far:.

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  reniaa, thank you for your response. I agree that all leaders have and alway will make lousy decisions. Isn't that why Jehovah didn't want Israel to have a human king?

  Yes, people get frustrated with the way politics works. We are given a choice of gala apples or fuji apples when what we really want is a pizza. With the governing body, we haven't got even that much of a choice. And when politcal leaders become unpopular, we have the freedom to question them and express our displeasure. As Oscar Wilde said, "Discontent is the first step in the progress of a man or a nation."

  If you feel that living by standards in the Bible and trusting in God makes you a better person, I absolutely respect that. If the governing body tells you to do something or believe something that you think conflicts with what the Bible says, which do you choose to follow? Which one would God rather have you do?

  The God of the Bible has never before chosen only one select group to whom he speaks. He has always dealt with multiple individuals and entities. Is it not possible that he does this today? What is the criteria for determing whom God has spoken to?
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  HOWARD ZINN - (historian, anti-war activist) anyone familiar???

  by AWAKE&WATCHING in

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  "patriotism is defined as obedience to government, obscuring the difference between the government and the people.

  thus, soldiers are led to believe that "we are fighting for our country" when in fact they are fighting for the government - an artificial entity different from the people of the country - and indeed are following policies dangerous to its own people.

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  Thanks Awake, I've added it to my wish list. I recently read most of Lies My Teacher Told Me: Everything Your American History Textbook Got Wrong. Also a good read.
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  Imperfection is irrelevant. Who has the right to rule?

  by bluecanary in

  1. watchtower
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  we started this discussion on another thread, but i didn't want to derail the topic at hand.

  here's where we stand so far:.

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  To shamus, mkr32208 and Deputy Dog: Despite the fact that I quoted her, this thread is neither about reniaa nor directed to her. I thought she brought up a thought-provoking topic and I created a thread based upon it, nothing more. She is as welcome to post here as anyone else. The only people here derailing my thread are you. Stop talking about her here.
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  by Dark_Ellie in

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  hello.... please excuse the all caps, due to the all watchful ey of my father i am restrained onto my ipod touch... you wont beleive the hassle i went through merely trying to post onto this site... (as a suggestion please make posting/creating topics native to the mobile version of this site as well...) anyway, hello, my name is ellie.

  contrary to what it sounds like, i am indeed male.

  i am 16 years old and have been questioning 'the truth' since i was 14 and figured i was gay.

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  Welcome Ellie.
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  Imperfection is irrelevant. Who has the right to rule?

  by bluecanary in

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  we started this discussion on another thread, but i didn't want to derail the topic at hand.

  here's where we stand so far:.

  reniaa:.

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  palmtree, thank you for your well-reasoned thoughts. I've often wondered, for those who think of God's relationship to us like a parent-child relationship, do humans ever attain indpendent adult status?
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  Imperfection is irrelevant. Who has the right to rule?

  by bluecanary in

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  we started this discussion on another thread, but i didn't want to derail the topic at hand.

  here's where we stand so far:.

  reniaa:.

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  shamus, you know I'm a monkey junkie.
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  Where can I get a COMPLETE list of FLIP FLOPS and DOCTRINE CHANGES??

  by foolsparadise in

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  yesterday my friend text me from his district convention and told me there was a new song book release.

  i replied i don't care.

  he can't understand why i never want to go back to the kh.

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  foolsparadise, you have a pm. Click on the little envelope next to your user name at the top right of the screen.
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  Imperfection is irrelevant. Who has the right to rule?

  by bluecanary in

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  we started this discussion on another thread, but i didn't want to derail the topic at hand.

  here's where we stand so far:.

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  I wasn't directing that at you Jeff. I was in the shower thinking about what I wrote and wanted to clarify.
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  What a problem is and what a problem is not and what you can do about it

  by gubberningbody in

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  let x be - a "situation", "circumstances", "state of affairs" or anything else in the world "out there".. let y be - the way you'd like x to be.. let z be the delta.

  the perceived relationship between x and y and the resulting delta is the problem.. .

  in other words.... a "problem" is your emotional response to what you imagine (rightly or wrongly) to be "out there".. it's a discrepancy between your perceptions as to x and y.. (the way things are, and the way you'd like them to be).

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  The first three of the Buddha's Four Noble Truths:

  1. Life means suffering.

  2. The origin of suffering is attachment.

  3. The cessation of suffering is attainable by ridding oneself of attachment.
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  Imperfection is irrelevant. Who has the right to rule?

  by bluecanary in

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  we started this discussion on another thread, but i didn't want to derail the topic at hand.

  here's where we stand so far:.

  reniaa:.

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  I realized I need to clarify. The argument that an imperfect group does not have the right to make policy for us is a valid one. What is irrelevant is the implied argument that a perfect group would.