We had brothers in our congregation working for Trimline in the Netherlands. They made fast money, just before people didn't want those stripes anymore...
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How many of you worked for "Trim-line" or "Auto-Trim-Design"?
by drewcoul ini remember a lot of witnesses working throughout the country for trim-line when i was younger.
i think it was started by a jw at the time.
i worked for the trim-line in indiana when i was younger.
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Introductions
by Gorbatchov inwhen i read today the introductions of new jwd members, i got the feeling that worldwide many of the members of the congregations have their doubts and are fading away from the watchtower community.
personaly it makes sense for me.
1) to see i'm not allone 2) to see that there is realy something going on!
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When I read today the introductions of new JWD members, I got the feeling that worldwide many of the members of the congregations have their doubts and are fading away from the watchtower community. Personaly it makes sense for me. 1) to see i'm not allone 2) to see that there is realy something going on!
I feel very angry about the Society. The way they treat people, the double standards, the manipulation, trying to make people guild at conventions and by publications.
Then I feel very sad, knowing that i'm a 4th generation witness, and oversee the family history and the importancy of this believe for my passed away family members. They never missed an evening in the congregation, they never missed a convention, they never missed their fieldservice in whole their live.
So, I'm realy f***** u* about this religion, the religion of me and my family... Knowing that when I get rid of it, I will miss it, how crazy!
Gorby
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Circuitleasing.com hosted on wtbts.org
by Gorbatchov inread some posting about [email protected] related to circuitleasing, the firm selling co/do's buicks in the us.. nice to know is the fact that www.circuitleasing.com is hosted on the wtbts.org servers.. this information makes it clear:.
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mx3.circuitleasing.coma208.74.140.17united statesmx2.us.jw.org208.74.140.0/24wbtsny-net1-0as40335wbtsny-as watchtower bible and tract society of new york, inc.circuitleasing.coma67.215.242.52united states(none)67.215.224.0/19as29761 67.215.224.0/19as29761quadranetns-soans1.wtbts.org31 days old208.74.141.4united stateswtbts.org208.74.141.0/24wbtsny-net1-1as40335wbtsny-as watchtower bible and tract society of new york, inc.ns.wtbts.org -nsns1.wtbts.org31 days old208.74.141.4united stateswtbts.orgns.wtbts.org -ns3.wtbts.org85 days old (only in zone)208.74.142.4united states208.74.142.0/24wbtsny-net1-2ns2.wtbts.org507 days old208.74.140.4united states208.74.140.0/24wbtsny-net1-0mx10mx1.circuitleasing.com26 days old208.74.141.17united statesmx1.us.jw.org208.74.141.0/24wbtsny-net1-160mx2.circuitleasing.com25 days old208.74.142.17united statesmx3.us.jw.org208.74.142.0/24wbtsny-net1-260mx3.circuitleasing.com208.74.140.17united statesmx2.us.jw.org208.74.140.0/24wbtsny-net1-0.
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Gorbatchov
My perception is that the cars are used bij CO/DO and are replaced every 4 years. So, the name circuitleasing is good, because this is the WTBTS own car leasing company. When the cars are replaced they have to be sold. So in the US, JW's can buy a former CO/DO car, and drive proudly in a former WTS car ((:
What I know also: in many country's in Africa and Asia, the WTS provide cars for the local branch office. Toyota landcruisers and Toyota minibuses. All these WTS cars are replaced once in the 4 years. Local brother and sisters don't believe it. A 4 year old car is in African eyes a new car. But these cars are replaced, just like a normal leasing company.
I think that when you have a neutral perception, there is nothing wrong with a lease car. I ave no neutral perception. Because the WTS is pointing their fingers to other religions negatively when it becomes subjects like credit cards accept points at DC's, and lease car's for the clerecy cq. firm officials.
The funny thing is, when you tell a local JW about the fact that WTS has an own lease company, they will brand you directly as a divider and a possible apostate ((:
Funny also is to think about Jesus in the first century... maybe he got a donkey, but not a lease horse and wagon!
Gorby
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Circuitleasing.com hosted on wtbts.org
by Gorbatchov inread some posting about [email protected] related to circuitleasing, the firm selling co/do's buicks in the us.. nice to know is the fact that www.circuitleasing.com is hosted on the wtbts.org servers.. this information makes it clear:.
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mx3.circuitleasing.coma208.74.140.17united statesmx2.us.jw.org208.74.140.0/24wbtsny-net1-0as40335wbtsny-as watchtower bible and tract society of new york, inc.circuitleasing.coma67.215.242.52united states(none)67.215.224.0/19as29761 67.215.224.0/19as29761quadranetns-soans1.wtbts.org31 days old208.74.141.4united stateswtbts.org208.74.141.0/24wbtsny-net1-1as40335wbtsny-as watchtower bible and tract society of new york, inc.ns.wtbts.org -nsns1.wtbts.org31 days old208.74.141.4united stateswtbts.orgns.wtbts.org -ns3.wtbts.org85 days old (only in zone)208.74.142.4united states208.74.142.0/24wbtsny-net1-2ns2.wtbts.org507 days old208.74.140.4united states208.74.140.0/24wbtsny-net1-0mx10mx1.circuitleasing.com26 days old208.74.141.17united statesmx1.us.jw.org208.74.141.0/24wbtsny-net1-160mx2.circuitleasing.com25 days old208.74.142.17united statesmx3.us.jw.org208.74.142.0/24wbtsny-net1-260mx3.circuitleasing.com208.74.140.17united statesmx2.us.jw.org208.74.140.0/24wbtsny-net1-0.
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Gorbatchov
Read some posting about [email protected] related to circuitleasing, the firm selling CO/DO's Buicks in the US.
Nice to know is the fact that www.circuitleasing.com is hosted on the wtbts.org servers.
This information makes it clear:
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On being born in and celebrating Birthdays
by baltar447 inso i'm in my mid 30s and about to have a birthday next month.
was putting together a very modest wish list and just broke down crying.
i was in tears.
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Gorbatchov
My wife and I still attend some meetings, but we celebrate the birthday of our childeren. I know more JW's in the netherlands, who do celebrate birthdays...
Gorby
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How many trees does it take to print WTB&TS mags each month?
by wannabefree inif my math is correct .... public watchtower printed each issue: 42,182,000. awake printed each issue: 41,042,000.
7.24" x 9.47" x 16 pages two sides.
16 x 9.47" x 41,042,000. one magazine end to end - 151.52".
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Gorbatchov
Thats much!
Also, the paper is not FSC certified! That's a worldwide responseble management organisation of forrests wood & paper.
They use BAD paper.
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What's your Myers-Briggs?
by Londo111 ini am infp.. some former witnesses in my hometown had a meetup last night...alas, only four of us.
but it turned out we had an infp(me), two infjs, and an enfp.
therefore, it turned out we were all idealists.
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Gorbatchov
Ehh,
I'm INFP ...
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Closing down of all non-native congregations in The Netherlands
by Gorbatchov inthis weekend serious sources told me that in the netherlands the society is closing down all non-native congregations.
because of the mixed population of this country, there are >100 non-native congregations like english, france, dutch-caribian, arab, chinese, italian, russian, spanish etc.. my source was backing the dissision of the society because "these non-native congregations are islands on their own, with group-thinking and not allways listening to the society..." and concluded "these non-natives has to learn dutch instead of we are learning their language".. strange: some years ago many jw's learned a foreign language (like arab or chinese!
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Gorbatchov
Slimboyfat, it is my limited English....
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Closing down of all non-native congregations in The Netherlands
by Gorbatchov inthis weekend serious sources told me that in the netherlands the society is closing down all non-native congregations.
because of the mixed population of this country, there are >100 non-native congregations like english, france, dutch-caribian, arab, chinese, italian, russian, spanish etc.. my source was backing the dissision of the society because "these non-native congregations are islands on their own, with group-thinking and not allways listening to the society..." and concluded "these non-natives has to learn dutch instead of we are learning their language".. strange: some years ago many jw's learned a foreign language (like arab or chinese!
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Gorbatchov
Yes, because the JW's (in The Netherlands) are very liberal. They don't mention the direction of the Branch (laugh about the old silly men).
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Closing down of all non-native congregations in The Netherlands
by Gorbatchov inthis weekend serious sources told me that in the netherlands the society is closing down all non-native congregations.
because of the mixed population of this country, there are >100 non-native congregations like english, france, dutch-caribian, arab, chinese, italian, russian, spanish etc.. my source was backing the dissision of the society because "these non-native congregations are islands on their own, with group-thinking and not allways listening to the society..." and concluded "these non-natives has to learn dutch instead of we are learning their language".. strange: some years ago many jw's learned a foreign language (like arab or chinese!
) and now they are all closing down.
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Gorbatchov
Slimboyfat, it's true! The sources are trustfully and I heared it from 3 elders... One of them was criticaly, the other two understand the society's positions.
Maybe there is a third option:
The Duch language congregations are slowing down and there is no growth for years. Maybe the spirit of the non-native's must stir the natives up to new heights..