Our local clown elder (dressed like one), told me at the memorial "Nice to see you find the road to the kingdom hall again". I have lost this road again since...
Gorbatchov
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Well an old friend found me. Now I'm in her cross hairs to get active again.
by wha happened? inugh.
on one hand i'm glad she's ok. rather sickly.
but once she got word i've been inactive, she's all hot and bothered to get me back to meetings.. "did you attend the memorial this year?".
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The United Nations will attack Christendom
by Doug Mason inthis is a serious question and i hope to receive intelligent explanations.. .
the wts says that the great tribulation lies in the future.
they write that it will start when the united nations attacks christendom.. .
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This will never happen! Nations like the US, UK will veto such a resolution in the UN Security Counsel.
The UN has no own army.
The boys in Brooklyn are so crazy. Come with some good stuff. This is fantasy.
Gorby
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GB proven wrong about fundamental doctrines for 95 years!
by Gorbatchov inwith the april 15 study watchtower, the governing body, the watchtower staff and their close fellows, co's, do's and other "friends" like gilead teachers, have been proven wrong about the most fundamental doctrine of jehovah's witnesses for 95 years.. so, the big question now is: who is realy the faithfull and discrete slave?
when you are wrong for about 95 years, are you right or are you the wrong part of history?!?.
what a joke!
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Gorbatchov
With the april 15 study watchtower, the governing body, the watchtower staff and their close fellows, CO's, DO's and other "friends" like Gilead teachers, have been proven wrong about the most fundamental doctrine of Jehovah's Witnesses for 95 years.
So, the big question now is: who is realy the faithfull and discrete slave? When you are wrong for about 95 years, are you right or are you the wrong part of history?!?
What a joke! All mentioned above, the GB, the staff at HQ and CO's, DO's, Gilead teachers have disfellowshipped maybe 1000's of genuine and fair loving christians, because these were right with their opinion about Watchtower theology!
Gorby
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New Light: That's what you call irony!
by Gorbatchov ini read a part of the new light in the april 15 study watchtower and got one conclusion: that's what you call irony!.
if we, readers of that magazine, said the same as written, before october 2012, it would lead to disfellowship.
if we were invited by a comite, and we would say the same, we would be disfellowshipped for live and for eternal life!!!!
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@newly englightened: right. the 1995 generation change distroyed my believe in WTS and for a part in God also.
@ding: the longtime watchtower staff members and CO / DO's, how can they look into the mirror?!?
They disfellowed without emotion many JW's with other "ideas" about this important part of doctrine, and now they are proven wrong!
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New Light: That's what you call irony!
by Gorbatchov ini read a part of the new light in the april 15 study watchtower and got one conclusion: that's what you call irony!.
if we, readers of that magazine, said the same as written, before october 2012, it would lead to disfellowship.
if we were invited by a comite, and we would say the same, we would be disfellowshipped for live and for eternal life!!!!
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Gorbatchov
I read a part of the new light in the april 15 study watchtower and got one conclusion: That's what you call irony!
If we, readers of that magazine, said the same as written, before october 2012, it would lead to disfellowship. If we were invited by a comite, and we would say the same, we would be disfellowshipped for live and for eternal life!!!!
And now, an 8 part governing body, claiming being faithfull and discrete, are publishing something totaly different, so we will being disfellowshipped if we hold on the pre october 2012 doctrine.
What an irony! Kafka!!
Gorby
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Differences Between JWs in the US and Europe
by BU2B inthere are many cultural differences between the general population of the us and europe, what about jws?
i have heard about such things as beards being allowed, movies that a jw cant watch in the us or would be frowned upon watching being ok, same with tv shows, and even the way they dress in public.
seems more laid back over there if this is true.. any truth to this?
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Gorbatchov
In The Netherlands (Holland) JW's go to disco, visit and watch most films (also R-rated), listen to all kinds of music, visit and organizing coctail party's, celebrate Queens day, copying CD's, DVD and software, have beards if they want... and drink a lot of alcohol...
So there is a difference with the US...
Gorby
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FDS new li(e)ght result about theology, doctrines and regulations
by Gorbatchov inthe new li(e)ght about fds do make me think about the following:.
1) previously, the fds concist of all the anointed.
they provided wts theology, doctrines and regulations in accordance with the official explanation.
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@cedars, it is a strange proces, isn't it? And what is dreadfull, they think we are idiots and that makes they can change green into black etc. What a mess! And at the watchtower meeting everybody will bla bla "FDS is GB" etc. That makes it for me impossible... being a JW is feeling like living a lie.
@s, so they were the centerpiece of a lie for 94 years! That's the only thing we can conclude. Partly correct, partly uncorrect, a lie is a lie. (Didn't they say that apostates are partly correct?!?
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FDS new li(e)ght result about theology, doctrines and regulations
by Gorbatchov inthe new li(e)ght about fds do make me think about the following:.
1) previously, the fds concist of all the anointed.
they provided wts theology, doctrines and regulations in accordance with the official explanation.
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The new li(e)ght about FDS do make me think about the following:
1) Previously, the FDS concist of all the anointed. They provided WTS theology, doctrines and regulations in accordance with the official explanation.
2) Now, the FDS concist of a group of anointed men, working together at HQ, with the name Governing Body.
So, if FDS version 1 is not right, we can conclude: "Brooklyn, we have a problem!". Because, FDS version 1 was not legalized to provide theology, doctrines and regulations, because they didn't excist.
Afterwards, all this provided truths have to be declared unlegal, given to us by a not existing institution.
Maybe the response is "All theology, docrines and regulations are provided by FDS version 2 since 1919", then we can conclude: "Brooklyn, we have a problem!". Because then, the WTS leadership has lied to us since 1919, this body was the centre of this lie for 94 years!
Pfff. Further questions: can somebody tell us were the official HQ was located since 1919? And since when is FDS version 2 an official doctrine? Since the annual meeting in 2012? Since the july 2013 magazine?
Gorby
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New light Watchtower magazine leaked from organization weeks ahead of general release
by cedars inhttp://jwsurvey.org/governing-body-2/new-light-watchtower-magazine-leaked-from-organization-weeks-ahead-of-general-release.
if doctrinal explanations are missing from the article, it is because they are also missing from the magazine.. i would like to give my thanks again to my source for supplying me with the magazine article weeks ahead of its scheduled release.
it showed remarkable courage, because risks were taken.
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Thanks Cedars for this information. JWD readers are best informed!
It's unbelievable and shocking to see how the Watchtower Society changes historical untruths into other untruths.
How can someone changes the past with only "Ideas" instead of facts.
The leadership / CO's of the Watchtower movement have disqualified themselves.
They are realy false. It's a fake religion.
It's a fake religion, i'm still a part of it, sometimes, nd this hurts, my family is generaton after generation (5th) a JW. We can not walk away without consequenses.
So, leadership, listen: know that many JW's are still in the audience, but we hate you and hate your ideas and don't support your fake religion and lies anymore. This all will stop sometime. Prepare for that.
A sick and frutstrated Gorby
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Watchtower: Changing The Past To Suit The Present
by Gorbatchov inthe new leaked watchtower magazine with major changes in doctrines, makes me realy sick.
we all know that communist governments are able to "change the past to suit the present".
our religion, always fast to point the finger to other religions and governmental organizations about faults, fairness and mistakes, is violating history.
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The new leaked watchtower magazine with major changes in doctrines, makes me realy sick. We all know that communist governments are able to "change the past to suit the present".
Our religion, always fast to point the finger to other religions and governmental organizations about faults, fairness and mistakes, is violating history.
The writing committee of the watchtower society, is changing the past on a way Lenin, Stalin and Erich Honecker only could dream.
So, in this case again the pot is calling the kettle black.
A sick Gorby