The 1995 change was the start of the search of JW doctrine for me realizing it was fake at all. The statement "Some witness believed that..." in the explaining watchtower magazine was the real eye opener!
Gorbatchov
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Another generation....
by joey jojo init has been 21 years since the 1995 article that pretty much buried the idea of the '1914 generation'.. remember those guys?
the ones born in 1914 that would still be alive when the end of the system arrived.. i'm glad i'm old enough to remember going from door to door, preaching this belief.
the reason i say that is because i have a lot of 'still in' jw friends and family.
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Giant Leak of Offshore Financial Records Exposes Global Array of Crime and Corruption
by JHK inmillions of documents show heads of state, criminals and celebrities using secret hideaways in tax havens... [...].
what about watchtower society's holy money?.
https://panamapapers.icij.org/20160403-panama-papers-global-overview.html?goal=0_ffd1d0160d-4ddea55429-100339089&mc_cid=4ddea55429&mc_eid=bfe834e473.
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Amsterdam is a big connection to the offshore corporations.
At one Lawyer address at the Keizersgracht, Amsterdam there is a registered corporation with the name
Watchtower B.V.
It could be the link to offshore activities.
But they would be crazy using their own name.
G.
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Panama papers
by Gorbatchov inis there a chance that watchtower is involved in offshore funds?.
i think there is, because of the business organisation model.. what do you think?.
how to find out?.
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2016 Watchtower Cart Campaign Video!
by Atlantis in2016 watchtower cart campaign video... this video does not seem to be listed on jw.org, so it may not be available to rank and file jws.. .. organizational accomplishments-sail amsterdam.
.. between minutes 1:05--1:10 of this video, the watchtower plainly states that they are directing people to (jw.org) no mention of directing people to god's kingdom, or to god or even jesus christ.. .. between minutes 2:45--2:52 the statement is made that the demonstrations focus primarily on promoting (jw.org) again, no mention of god's kingdom or jesus christ.. .. it is pretty clear to see that (jw.org) has taken the drivers seat and god's kingdom and jesus christ have been placed in the back seat.. .. https://we.tl/eejg44rezq.
.. .. .. atlantis!.
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I have seen the Amsterdam cart campain and the way it was organized. The JW involved, and there were many, were very internal focussed. Like robots they followed the instructions, with the famous "we are better than the world" marketing drive. There was no mention in the media about the campain. -
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Panama papers
by Gorbatchov inis there a chance that watchtower is involved in offshore funds?.
i think there is, because of the business organisation model.. what do you think?.
how to find out?.
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Is there a chance that watchtower is involved in offshore funds?
I think there is, because of the business organisation model.
What do you think?
How to find out?
G.
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BOE: 2016-03-21 Re: Donations to “Jehovah’s Witnesses of India”
by wifibandit inmarch 21, 2016 to all bodies of elders in the united states branch territory re: donations to “jehovah’s witnesses of india”
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Religion, a part of the American way of Life.
by Gorbatchov infound this picture on the twitter account and it makes a wider perspective to me.. the jw religion is so part of the american way of life, just like the other religions in the us.. in the jw growth rate country's there is a market for this "better" life.
the religion makes it possible.. western europe had that marketing mix need after world war 2 and maybe a part of the cold war.. see the picture, and you know, the similarities with the jw religion, the change will be in details and not fundamental.. gorby.
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Found this picture on the twitter account and it makes a wider perspective to me.
The JW religion is so part of the American way of Life, just like the other religions in the US.
In the JW growth rate country's there is a market for this "better" life. The religion makes it possible.
Western Europe had that marketing mix need after World War 2 and maybe a part of the cold war.
See the picture, and you know, the similarities with the JW religion, the change will be in details and not fundamental.
Gorby
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Coming to terms with the Watchtower experience
by Lee Elder init is a challenge coming to terms with your experience as a jehovah's witness.
if you were born and raised as a jw, and your parents were true believers, the impact on your life is profound, lasting, and largely negative.
in some cases quite abusive emotionally, spiritually, financially, educationally and yes, even sexually.. i recently watched "trumbo", and was quite moved by dalton trumbo's speech to the screen writers guild in 1970. here is an excerpt that i think is quite relevant to this topic:.
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New Memorial Songs Were Very Good, IMO
by RubaDub ini guess we can agree to differ, but i personally found the new memorial songs (147, 149) to be very good, at least from a musical perspective.
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I didn't like them. Translation into our little European language is always a problem.
Melody was a weak version of the Lion King theme.
It's so pathetic, the American dream.
Gorby
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Gorby and his family went to the memorial. Just for family reasons. To keep the communication lines open.
I have to say, I don't like to go but has to do it for the good sake.
Some were happy to see us, some talked to us, and most of them didn't show any interest.
Because of our fade I can see them now from more distance and have to say how overdone the JW
behavior is during the memorial. They look uber people, gods personal selected people on earth with their "kingdom smile". It feels that they have no respect for people who make other choices.
The memorial ritual is weird when you look at it from more distance. Paying respect to the bread and wine,
knowing that it's not for you.
When it was over, I did a little chat with some with real interest, about his electric bike, speeding
every day through our street. Fun.
And then we made the long walk from our chairs to our jackets and entrance through a mass of people watching you with a grimace, knowing that most of them don't give a sh*t about you and talk behind you're back when you left the building.
Gorby
