Here in the Netherlands (for US readers: a small country in Western Europe west of Germany and north of Belgium), most JW's don't wear Convention Badges anymore. We don't like those Watchtower-tools. We don't donate money also. That's why we are punished by the Society. No coffee, bad seats and no video screens anymore to see the speaker... It doesn't matter, there is always a McDonalds for coffee to find, and we don't have to see the speaker, to hear him is bad enough. Most of us also attend the convention only at saturday and sunday, because our job on friday is a good excuse to stay away.
Gorbatchov
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Convention Badges Location
by Bangalore inwhy does the wt ask jw's to wear their badges on their chest?
in the case of brothers it is not a problem but is it not embarassing for the sisters?
also if an attendant for some reason has to check out a sisters badge, it might appear that he is staring at.... escpecially considering that this is a religion regarded by many as quite prudish.. .
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New DVD about WTS history: no generation too
by Gorbatchov ini watched the new dvd earlier this week and the speaker at the convention did his presentation about the new understanding of the generation bla bla bla and the overlap of the generation bla bla bla and then presented the new dvd.
but also on the new dvd the overlap and even "the generation" is not mentioned at all.. the dvd is missing very much information and gives disinformation.
my family asked in a choir "was russell not married" when we watched the dvd.. i told them that he was divorced (...).
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Gorbatchov
I watched the new DVD earlier this week and the speaker at the convention did his presentation about the new understanding of the generation bla bla bla and the overlap of the generation bla bla bla and then presented the new DVD.
But also on the new DVD the overlap and even "the generation" is not mentioned at all.
The DVD is missing very much information and gives disinformation. My family asked in a choir "Was Russell not married" when we watched the DVD.
I told them that he was divorced (...)
"Ok..." was the answer.
Gorb
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2010 Drama - No Generation
by allelsefails inafter sitting thru the drama this year i was struck with a thought.. there was a scene where a "brother" said they knew the end would come, but did not think it would be in their lifetime.
at no point did someone say "but jesus said this generation would see the end" why?
because "this generation" now means 2 generations that overlap - as explained to us in the last talk of the day.
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Gorbatchov
It is a silly drama. I wondered about the historical mistakes in it. They are speaking about "The elders" and presented the historical times as was it today.
I would not be surprised when one of the guys in the drama would take an Ipad to read the pdf version of the scriptures. "The apostles send me an email today that we have to run to the mountains".
Gorb
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Funny statement about DVD replacing Proclaimers book on DC
by Gorbatchov inlast weekend i attended the dc.
i had special interest in the closing speech about "this generation".. the bethel speaker told us he lost track after the publication of the watchtower in 2008 about "this generation" and concluded that "this generation" can overlap only 1 time.
he stated that there is an absolute time limitation of "this generation".
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Gorbatchov
Last weekend I attended the DC. I had special interest in the closing speech about "This generation".
The Bethel speaker told us he lost track after the publication of the Watchtower in 2008 about "This generation" and concluded that "This generation" can overlap only 1 time. He stated that there is an absolute time limitation of "This generation". Members of the current 144.000 who's lives overlapped the lives of members of the 144.000 who experienced 1914 will see the end of this system.
Then he released the new DVD about the history of Jehovah's Witness in modern times. He stated that this DVD will replace the Proclaimers (history) book, because Jehovah's Witnesses are mostly not readers of thick books.
Of course a big applause fellowed.
Gorb
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Funny statement about DVD replacing Proclaimers book on DC
by Gorbatchov inlast weekend i attended the dc.
i had special interest in the closing speech about "this generation".. the bethel speaker told us he lost track after the publication of the watchtower in 2008 about "this generation" and concluded that "this generation" can overlap only 1 time.
he stated that there is an absolute time limitation of "this generation".
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Gorbatchov
Last weekend I attended the DC. I had special interest in the closing speech about "This generation".
The Bethel speaker told us he lost track after the publication of the Watchtower in 2008 about "This generation" and concluded that "This generation" can overlap only 1 time. He stated that there is an absolute time limitation of "This generation". Members of the current 144.000 who's lives overlapped the lives of members of the 144.000 who experienced 1914 will see the end of this system.
Then he released the new DVD about the history of Jehovah's Witness in modern times. He stated that this DVD will replace the Proclaimers (history) book, because Jehovah's Witnesses are mostly not readers of thick books.
Of course a big applause fellowed.
Gorb
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1914 Doctrine is FALSE -- Questions for JW's
by UnDisfellowshipped inis there any jehovah's witness who can answer these questions about 1914?.
can you demonstrate, using the holy scriptures, that the messianic kingdom was established in 1914, that jesus got the full legal right to become king that year, and that jesus returned invisibly in 1914, and that the "last days" began that year?.
1:) no encyclopedia, no history book, and no archaeology book that i have ever seen have ever said that nebuchadnezzar destroyed jerusalem and the temple in the year 607 bce.
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Gorbatchov
Hi Bane,
I'm a born-in JW, 39 years old, 4th generation. I don't want to lose my family when I leave.
So that's it.
Gor
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1914 Doctrine is FALSE -- Questions for JW's
by UnDisfellowshipped inis there any jehovah's witness who can answer these questions about 1914?.
can you demonstrate, using the holy scriptures, that the messianic kingdom was established in 1914, that jesus got the full legal right to become king that year, and that jesus returned invisibly in 1914, and that the "last days" began that year?.
1:) no encyclopedia, no history book, and no archaeology book that i have ever seen have ever said that nebuchadnezzar destroyed jerusalem and the temple in the year 607 bce.
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Gorbatchov
Dear Und.
Im a JW and I know the doctrine is false. All the generation doctrines are false too.
That's it.
I visited the DC this weekend and the teaching of the new generation doctrine was realy stupid.
Nobody understood what was told. Off course a loud applause when the DVD was released.
Our believe is for simple minds. When you are a thinker, you've got a problem...
What a joke, this DC.
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Have your JW Relatives Explained about Generation/Overlap Change to You ?
by flipper inafter reading on the way out's thread about his mom explaining the generation overlap to him it kicked this idea into my head to make this thread .
i thought it would be helpful to see if anybody here has had jw relatives or friends try to explain this " generation overlap " theory to you as a faded or inactive witness and what happened in the conversations.
so please feel free to post your experiences.
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Gorbatchov
They have many doubts! This week I talked about it with family members and one said "I don't believe in the Society anymore, only in Jehovah. The Society can say what they want, but I don't believe them. When I hear the statements of them, I don't believe it. I keep going for my believe in Jehovah".
The quote about the stamps, it is a very close family member of my.
Another one told me he want to celebrate birthdays, because the society had wrong intentions about forbidding birthdays...
So they are changing (in west europe).
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Have your JW Relatives Explained about Generation/Overlap Change to You ?
by flipper inafter reading on the way out's thread about his mom explaining the generation overlap to him it kicked this idea into my head to make this thread .
i thought it would be helpful to see if anybody here has had jw relatives or friends try to explain this " generation overlap " theory to you as a faded or inactive witness and what happened in the conversations.
so please feel free to post your experiences.
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Gorbatchov
I have signs of changed thinking of family members: they dislike the new generation doctrine. They also told me they stay JW for the family.
"Some people collect stamps, and we have another hobby: being JW's" a family member told me.
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All the young girls love Alice
by Think About It inalice.......here's a good elton john song about a girl named alice.
mary and yknot probably remember this one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djiuatp_swy.
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Gorbatchov
Elton John is my favorite artist! The live concerts are great!